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Post by tothehouse on Sept 16, 2009 22:18:08 GMT -6
So it's closing in on Friday night. Here is my question....
how many of you start your mind going on the next opponent and act upon those thoughts before the game you're about to play?
Example - are you watching film of your next weeks opponent the Wednesday or Thursday of your current week? Drawing up plays/schemes for your next opponent?
Is it common? Do you feel like you're cheating your players if you aren't totally committed to the current week?
I ask because I am feeling pretty good about scheme, etc. by Wednesday and Thursday is polish time. Should I dive into next weeks opponent a little?
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Post by goldenbear76 on Sept 16, 2009 23:01:14 GMT -6
I don't see a problem with it. As long as you feel comfortable with where your kids are at in terms of that weeks opponent. Having said that...if you struggle in this weeks game...would you kick yourself for looking ahead? heh. I think its natural to look ahead to a "Big" game..but you do want to be careful..because this weeks game is where you have to improve.
I don't think i've ever REALLY looked ahead to an opponent though because I am always asking myself .."what if they do this.." i can really give myself a headache too doing this lol. I typically do not transfer my "what if" thoughts to my team though.
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Post by amikell on Sept 17, 2009 6:39:51 GMT -6
Other than capturing and marking up the film, I will try to start the special teams breakdown on Thursday or Friday of the week before. If I am lucky, I can be done w/ ST before that night's game and be ready to produce the scouting report on Saturday.
I think working ahead is fine, especially on Thursday or Friday. At that point, the hay is in the barn anyway, and the game is in the players' hands, not yours.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 17, 2009 9:10:15 GMT -6
Yeah, I will let my mind drift a bit to the next week's game. We've gone from doublewing inspired pistol offense to triple option to air it out spread the last few weeks, so I've had some serious variety on the brain. Shoot, I had the adjustments and gameplan for the triple option team drawn up on Tuesday of the DW team week just because it came to me and I couldn't stop thinking about what our adjustments would be.
I haven't seen any film on our next opponent yet, else I'd probably be mulling it over in the back of my head today and tomorrow.
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Post by jgordon1 on Sept 17, 2009 11:26:04 GMT -6
Just happened to me yesterday...a future opponent plays a funky unballanced formation..doesn't matter if it's a big game or not..if a thought drifts into my mind I write it down (because I would never remember) and let it go..I keep a folder of each team...my problem is sometimes I might be a little biased to my former ideas before I completlely watch all the available film
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Post by diesal on Sept 18, 2009 11:54:35 GMT -6
Have to be careful. Our OC ripped our RB for flaring instead of picking up the OLB on a stunt. RB looks back at him and says "thats what you wanted me to do last week"
Needless to say the next words out of OC was "sh&*"
Don't get too involved with the next opponent.
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Post by coachsky on Sept 18, 2009 13:09:47 GMT -6
As coaches we do it all the time. When we have "rollover" game weeks we are always focused on the next tough game. But here are the caveats:
1. Kids and parents never know that!
2. During practice we even work on skill sets/ indy drills/ and plays that we are going to run in future weeks. We don't tell this to the kids.
3. We always try to steal time from our upcoming opponent by adding some gimmick or dummy sets & plays that we know will work against the weaker teams, that we have no intention of running. We just want them to have to defend it in practice time.
4. Coaches watch film on our biggest opponents for two, three weeks in advance.
I hope our opponents are focusing on every team one week in advance. Hell, we spend our whole off season scheming and planning how to beat our 3 or 4 toughest opponents. We even discuss how our schemes can compete against the top teams in the state.
Every program is in a certain stage of development and when your rebuilding and trying to grow the success of your program you have to be focused on one game at a time. When you start to have some success you have to change your paradigm.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 19, 2009 10:58:46 GMT -6
We have done this in the past, but we're pretty clandestine about it...
For example, this week, we are playing a Wing T tea that is very similar to the top team in the state, a team that we lost to twice to last year, including a state title game.
We'll add in a few of their offensive plays into our script for the week, simply because they are very similar to the tean we play this upcoming week. We don't talk about it with the kids, we focus them on the team we are playing, but we'll still toss in a few of those plays.
Our game plan between the two teams will be very similar, but we'll get a few different looks from each team. It's not that we're really looking ahead because, for all intents and purposes, the state title team is a little more sound with their Wing T than this weeks opponent. IIt'll make the defense a little better going into this week.
But, it's not like we'll toss in a few plays from an Air Raid team when we're playing a veer team in the upcoming week. And as I said, we never look ahead with the kids; they're focused on this weeks opponent.
I coached in a program that did this walking into the playoffs. We knew that we'd be playing a veer team in the first week of the playoffs, but our last game of the year was against a terrible spread team. We squeaked out with a ten point win, after telling our kids how terrible the team was.. We played terribly against the spread team, it cut the kids confidence down and even with that extra prep, we still got thumped in the first week of the playoffs.
There are things that we won't show an opponent in anticipation of an upcoming opponent. We played a terrible veer team in week 3 last year, but played base the whole game..The next veer team we played was much better, but they expected us to play base and practiced against base. We came after them with our zone blitzes that were good against veer and shut them down the whole game.
The first week of the season this year, we ran EVERYTHING in our package. We knew that the next week's opponent would alot of practice time checking in and out of things when we showed various coverages and blitzes, instead of just practicing their scheme. It hurt them all the way down to the sophomore level; we caught them checking into bubble screens against C2 ALOT. Show a blitz, they start out in shotgun, get back under the hood, throw their screen and we drop them for loss each time. We show base coverage, roll down into zone blitz at at the last minute and and they start throwing picks and we pick up a few sacks. They checked into MOF passing packages when they saw C2, we roll down and they throw the ball right at our middle 1/3 safety.
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Post by caneman on Sept 19, 2009 11:06:39 GMT -6
So it's closing in on Friday night. Here is my question.... how many of you start your mind going on the next opponent and act upon those thoughts before the game you're about to play? Example - are you watching film of your next weeks opponent the Wednesday or Thursday of your current week? Drawing up plays/schemes for your next opponent? Is it common? Do you feel like you're cheating your players if you aren't totally committed to the current week? I ask because I am feeling pretty good about scheme, etc. by Wednesday and Thursday is polish time. Should I dive into next weeks opponent a little? Depends who we are playing this week... if they are weaker and I am confident we will win then I start breaking down film for the next week... if it is going to be a tough game this week I might peek at film for the next game to see what I am up against but I wont start planning for it. |
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Post by kylem56 on Sept 19, 2009 12:45:10 GMT -6
I will do this if I have some extra time during the week. I am all for getting ahead on a team. We don't do it as a staff though.
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