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Post by bjones on May 28, 2009 18:42:01 GMT -6
We are on 7 period days and I usually have 6th hour as planning hour. I just found out my assistants this next year will not, they teach in the middle school and they'll have 3rd hour plan. I won't see my assistant all day now until 7th hour football practice. Only one assistant has 6th hour off. We did our practice planning, adjustments, etc all during this plan hour. How can I make this work? Anybody have experience with this? How can I turn this into a positive?
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Post by jpdaley25 on May 28, 2009 18:50:40 GMT -6
We plan after practice for the next day. I have to do all the grunt work myself every day to set up for practice during 6th period (55 minutes) and do all the paper work, handle all the phone calls, deal with all the problems, etc. etc. etc. Next year I will have a woping 30 min. to do all the same stuff. I'm gonna have to come in early-er (5 am) to get everything done next year. Just part of the job.
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Post by jgordon1 on May 28, 2009 19:10:05 GMT -6
we've been together for a while(going on our fourth year) so we kind of have it down pat. We plan the next practice and also the night before. The HC does the offensive scripts and I do the defensive scripts. we start practice 25 minutes after school ends so we have a little time there. other tomes we catch guys up on the field
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Post by coachd5085 on May 28, 2009 19:29:52 GMT -6
Yeah, just do it after practice. do the scripts after practice, do the planning after practice, watch film after practice...draw the cards after practice...
divide it up and it isnt a ton of work
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Post by jgordon1 on May 28, 2009 19:32:44 GMT -6
Yeah, just do it after practice. do the scripts after practice, do the planning after practice, watch film after practice...draw the cards after practice... divide it up and it isnt a ton of work If I draw the cards up after practice..what would I do during planning period  |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 28, 2009 20:57:06 GMT -6
Yeah, just do it after practice. do the scripts after practice, do the planning after practice, watch film after practice...draw the cards after practice... divide it up and it isnt a ton of work If I draw the cards up after practice..what would I do during planning period Surf Huey.com |
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Post by coachbdud on May 28, 2009 21:48:56 GMT -6
Yeah, just do it after practice. do the scripts after practice, do the planning after practice, watch film after practice...draw the cards after practice... divide it up and it isnt a ton of work If I draw the cards up after practice..what would I do during planning period pre practice nap |
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Post by jgordon1 on May 29, 2009 0:22:21 GMT -6
If I draw the cards up after practice..what would I do during planning period Surf Huey.com I do that during class, check my post times LOL |
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Post by bjones on May 29, 2009 7:38:26 GMT -6
Appreciate the response guys. Doing everything after practice just adds to an already long day but that's the hand we're dealt so we'll do what we got to do.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 7:56:23 GMT -6
No offense intended, bjones, but this issue is reality for most staffs. The fact you guys used to have all the same planning period is quite a perk. It does suck doing all that stuff after practice, but there's really no better time after losing the common school time. It sucks giving up your lunch period, but would that be possible?
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Post by bjones on May 29, 2009 9:12:10 GMT -6
Having the same plan period is a perk? I'm in Oklahoma and in the "football" schools this is pretty standard of having all the coaches in the same planning period. I've been spoiled to having all of us together and now we're not so I'm bummed. Lunch period is a good idea but since some of our coaches teach in the middle school we have different lunch times.
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Post by phantom on May 29, 2009 9:33:31 GMT -6
I'm a DC and used to teach in a different school system from the one where I coached. Most of the other assistants are not teachers. It's never been a problem for us. The HC/OC drew up the scout cards of the opponents' defense (well, he got the poor sucker= errr- in school assistant to draw them up), wrote the practice plan, and the scripts. I did the same for defensive practice.
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Post by airraider on May 29, 2009 9:42:04 GMT -6
Ive been in the best of both worlds.. and in the worst..
First school every coach in every sport taught 1st and 2nd block.. 3rd planning.. 4th athletics..
My second school.. same set up.. but on 7 hour days.. so 6th planning.. 7th practice..
My 3rd school.. I didnt even have my coaches for athletic PE.. only had 14 players for athletic PE.. School did not get out until 3:41.. so we were lucky to be on the field by 4.. In a neighborhood that you did not want to be out after dark in.. so by 6.. we HAD to be wrapping up..
Now.. small school.. so teachers are limited.. so most of my coaches will have 4th block planning which will allow them to come coach..
I will have the basketball coach 4th block to help with off season.. but he will also have basketball kids.. so during basketabll season.. I will be alone..
Some have it great.. and others have to work like Heck to make it work..
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Post by shortpunter on May 29, 2009 9:44:51 GMT -6
I am part of a staff now that has 5 coaches in three differnet school systems and live in four different cities. We text, call, and meet when possible. It would be nice to have a prep period together but that is never going to happen
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Post by jgordon1 on May 29, 2009 10:05:07 GMT -6
Boy am I in the wrong state
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Post by coachwoodall on May 29, 2009 10:09:28 GMT -6
email
get on the same page the night before
coach x will do the O script
coach y will draw the card
coach z will do the D script
have a set time where they email that to you and you compile it and either email it all back to all assistants by a certain time, or it will be copied and ready to go when you get here.
Once you get a rhythm with everyone, they will know when to expect it and when it is done
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Post by airraider on May 29, 2009 10:33:56 GMT -6
Boy am I in the wrong state And I assumed it was like this at all schools.. but I guess it is not.. but there are ALOT that are.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 10:58:25 GMT -6
Maybe I've just been working at the wrong schools!!!
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Post by bjones on May 29, 2009 11:32:43 GMT -6
I guess I don't have it as bad as I thought, it seems that not having your assistants in a plan period is more of the rule rather than the exception. I guess I'll quit whining. We do all have email and would be able to communicate frequently that way. We also have a Jr. High athletic period together where we could go over HS things if need be (would hate to take away from JH football though). We'll make it work, don't really have a choice.
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Post by coachdawhip on May 29, 2009 17:58:08 GMT -6
Boy am I in the wrong state And I assumed it was like this at all schools.. but I guess it is not.. but there are ALOT that are.. All schools surely aren't equal! Coach, do what you can through email and train them to divide and conquer on their own |
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Post by kylem56 on May 29, 2009 20:02:07 GMT -6
I would say delegate to your guys. I coach at a D4 HS in Ohio, 2 of us our non teachers, 2 are middle school teachers, 1 is a elementary teacher, and our HC is the Middle School Principal so none of us have a time before practice where we have time to sit together. Here is how we breakdown them responsibilites you mentioned:
Each position coach is responsible for submitting their individual period practice plans, scout O & D cards for the week to the HC by noon on Monday. If you have a responsibility of doing a script, you need to be there early enough to make copies for the other coaches or make copies at your building.
HC / DC- Team Defense Script, Scout O Script, Overall Practice Plan Schedule
Pass Game Coordinator (QBs)- Responsible for preparing 7 on 7, Team O period scripts , runs Scout O
Run Game Coordinator (OL/me)- Inside Run script, Group Periods, Defensive Scout Cards (Fronts, Stunts, Blitzes) , Also have to do the Oppoenent DVDs every week
Wide Recievers Coach- Scout O Pass Play cards, Special Teams script, Coaches up Scout D on Coverages
Running Backs Coach- Scout O Run Play cards, Special Teams Cards, (Also does our S&C)
Defensive Backs Coach- Scout O Pass Play cards, Special Teams Script, Runs Scout Defense
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Post by bjones on May 29, 2009 21:20:42 GMT -6
That's pretty good stuff! On Sundays we try and get all the scout cards done for the whole week. I'll make out the practice schedules and offensive/defensive call script for the week and try to have it to them by Monday before school on their desk. I liked having us all together before practice to answer questions, make corrections to schedule if need be, talk about what each coach is emphasizing during there group periods, and so forth. I'm not the best at delegating but maybe this will be good for me and force me to do more.
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Post by coachorr on May 29, 2009 23:24:20 GMT -6
I wouldn't be too happy if the HC asked me to meet alot during a plan period. Planning is for school, coaching is for after school. I would take home football work, before I put off teaching work to take home.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 30, 2009 8:40:46 GMT -6
I wouldn't be too happy if the HC asked me to meet alot during a plan period. Planning is for school, coaching is for after school. I would take home football work, before I put off teaching work to take home. I would somewhat agree with this statement, unless the schedule is organized in such a way that planning periods are designated for athletics (like last period off, or all coaches off the same period or something similar) I prefer setting it all up after practice...it isnt that time consuming, even if you film practice. Review practice tape 30 min Practice schedule--should be a default schedule, so I say 5 min tops. Scripting Inside, skell, team, and anything else (like blitz period, or perimeter run period) maybe 12 minutes. Cards an additional 15 minutes. if you break those up. So its really just another hour to an hour and 15 minutes providing your staff comes in, does work, and leaves. If you have a staff that feels the need to waste time with war stories, unnecessary complaints or whining etc....might make for a long night. |
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