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Post by husky44 on May 9, 2009 20:34:28 GMT -6
Coaches, I am hoping some of you have some suggestions for an upcoming problem. Our HC is dead set on two platooning yet we have only about 26 viable varsity football players. If we have one or two injuries on either side of the ball we are in big trouble because there will be a major drop in production. We have talked about sharing a few players on each side of the ball but he wants to have them switch for an entire practice. Ex. on Monday our FB/LB would be with the defense the entire practice and on Tues. with the offense. This will force the coaching staff to back track to coach the kid up on what he missed the day before and will not make our team as productive. I would prefer to have our practices split in half O/D and everyone learns a second position but he does not like this.
Also, during two a days we have talked about most of our top athletes learning a second position in case of injuries but they may never play the other position during the season unless needed. Do any of you do this?
Any ideas?
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Post by wingtoc on May 9, 2009 20:44:47 GMT -6
We have a separate indy time that we call a crossover period where several athletes that are going to help us both ways go to the other side of the ball for a shorter indy time. If individual is 20mins reg then we would have an additional 10-15 min crossover period where I might lose a few and gain some new bodies. We still have to reteach some but at least they are getting both sides of the ball everyday.
During our team period we also switch the crossover players so that they get some live fire on the other side of the ball.
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Post by husky44 on May 9, 2009 20:49:25 GMT -6
So if this is built into your regular practice schedule what do the rest of the players do during this time? I like the idea but am not sure where to fit this in.
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Post by wingtoc on May 10, 2009 5:50:49 GMT -6
They stay at there individual position. So they get 25-30 mins of indy while the crossover guys get the same amount of time just splitting it up into 2 positions. There primary position gets the primary indy time (most time)
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Post by coachdawhip on May 10, 2009 9:13:01 GMT -6
We do the same time 15 min 1st position Indy and then 10 minute crossover for anyone who needs to go both ways.
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Post by fbdoc on May 10, 2009 13:07:51 GMT -6
Why is your HC dead set on going two platoon? I'm all for developing players, etc. but with that small of a roster I don't know if that is the best idea. MANY years ago (as a very young HC) I was determined to go two platoon after hearing a coach at a clinic speak about his experience. We had about 30 kids on the roster (9-12 at small school). It was not a popular decision but I stuck with it. We finished 8-2 but missed the playoffs and I had my first lesson in small town politics! It's safe to say we would/could/should have won both games if I had played my best kids both ways. I still believe in developing players but make sure your staff and the players are sold on two platooning, especially if your numbers are low.
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Post by jpdaley25 on May 10, 2009 18:52:40 GMT -6
We also have low numbers. Here's how we do it:
We have an A offense and an A Defense - 2 platoons
We have a B Offense and a B Defense.
The A Offense is the B Defense and the A Defense is the B Offense.
Everyone goes to O & D Indy time every day.
During team, The A Offense and Defense scrimmages and then the B Offense and Defense Scrimmages- Everyone gets work.
We also have a C Offense and a C Defense- This is the absolute best we can put out there on offense and defense.
Against a weaker opponent we may be able to play all A's the whole game. Some games may be all C. It just depends on the situation.
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Post by otowncoach on May 10, 2009 20:36:05 GMT -6
This will be our second year with two-platooning. Be prepared for some growing pains year one. I believe you have to commit to it for at least three years - halfway through the first year you will want to junk it and just play the best. You must stay the course.
Would it be possible for some of your more-talented players to work the opposite side of the ball on Tuesday? That will be at least one day for them to get a 2nd position work.
What you have to do is develop depth. We have found that some of our marginal kids got MUCH better because they were forced to be #2's - otherwise they would have been sitting behind the guys playing both ways. It will increase your depth and then hopefully you can start getting more kids out. Sell it to your students that way - we have 22 positions open x 3 levels = 66 possible starters in our football program.
But be prepared for big time growing pains year one!
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Post by CVBears on May 12, 2009 16:12:32 GMT -6
we are a two platoon team that has a few special players that will go both ways in certain situations. We already know the types of situations that we need those players in our game plan. In practice, when said items come up, that coach yells for that specific player to come over, player gets his work in, and then goes back to the other side of the ball. There is no sense in wasting minutes.
We have a recruitable kid at safety this year that we are also going to have play some WR. When his package offense is being practiced, the WR coach calls him over for the indy period, and probably the 7 on 7 period. When his package is done, the WR coach sends him back to the DB coach.
Each kid is going to be different depending on his two positions. But the same type of thing can be accomplished for any positions if the coaching staff is organized and dialed in.
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Post by coachwilley on May 12, 2009 17:57:32 GMT -6
We also have low numbers. Here's how we do it: We have an A offense and an A Defense - 2 platoons We have a B Offense and a B Defense. The A Offense is the B Defense and the A Defense is the B Offense. Everyone goes to O & D Indy time every day. During team, The A Offense and Defense scrimmages and then the B Offense and Defense Scrimmages- Everyone gets work. We also have a C Offense and a C Defense- This is the absolute best we can put out there on offense and defense. Against a weaker opponent we may be able to play all A's the whole game. Some games may be all C. It just depends on the situation. How many did you have out last year?
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Post by CoachCP on May 12, 2009 19:00:13 GMT -6
Having done both, I don't see how it is feasible for small programs to do two platoon systems, and I don't see how big programs can be successful by not two platooning. Just depends on the situation.
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