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Post by psbrowning on Apr 9, 2009 9:40:41 GMT -6
What do any of you consider showing respect to kids as? We expect them to respect us (hopefully) so how do we show this in return?
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Post by touchdownmaker on Apr 9, 2009 9:57:21 GMT -6
Learn their names, first and last and apply that information. Thats a start.
Do not curse at them or call them names.
Teach them, provide real coaching, not just criticism and no useless put downs.
Equal opportunity, apply rules to all players, not just upper classmen or not just stars. All are equal.
Care about them off the field and out of season.
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Post by fatkicker on Apr 9, 2009 10:02:01 GMT -6
wise to respect your players......especially if you plan to retire in the community you are coaching in.....
these guys may be the doctors, nurses, or orderlies that are in charge of pushing us around the nursing homes.......
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Post by bigm0073 on Apr 9, 2009 10:11:47 GMT -6
Real good points!! Just to piggyback - This is important:
1. Avoid sarcasm (Really know your audience) 2. No profanity (Lead by example) 3. Talk to the kids - Not AT Them. Create relationships with players. Get to know them and their family. 4. Constructive Criticism - Be honest with kids but do not "Belittle them" or make fun of them in front of their peers. I tell my coaches if you push some of our players in a corner you might not like what you see. 5. Fair - Praise their for their positive efforts and accomplishments. Hard work, weight room attendance, Scout Team effort... Also we really emphasize "effort and hustle".. Mental mistakes that are constant I put on the coaches but "loafs" or lack of effort plays will get a player a good lashing. Kids respect you if you do both.
I had a player transfer to my school his senior year from a rival. Good football player (RB) but a really good wrestler. Well this kid had a reputation of being a thug. At his last school he "punched the wrestling coach in the face". I was apprehensive. Well in our program kid was a quiet hard working player and in one game probably won for us with his two TDs... Well I find out that the wrestling coach from the other school calls him a "Little Pusssy" in front of the whole team....
Yep - The coach in my opinion got what he deserved! The coach also was fired after that incident too!
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Post by touchdowng on Apr 9, 2009 14:18:42 GMT -6
There is some really great feedback. I agree with all of this and we do our best (as a staff) to practice all of the above.
When players know that you respect them, care for them, and take the time to treat them fairly they will battle hard for each other and battle hard for the coaches.
It's also important to speak positively about past players when bringing them up as examples with your current players. Kids will make the connection if you are speaking poorly or positively about past players. We had a player leave our program after his 9th grade season to go play for our rival. We have beaten them each season he has played for them. A great player but a poor teammate. We only say that we are glad he left and we leave it at that. No reason to bash him.
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Post by superpower on Apr 9, 2009 14:58:22 GMT -6
Treat them the way you would want a coach to treat your own son.
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Post by windigo on Apr 9, 2009 15:47:32 GMT -6
Treat them with respect, the lexicon you use is important. But do not try to be their friend.
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Post by gpoulin76 on Apr 9, 2009 15:53:21 GMT -6
Treat them like a man, not a kid.
Shake their hands when greeting them, and look at them in the eye when you talk.
Be honest with them, even if it is at times brutal honesty.
Always allow them to maintain their dignity. Give them an out.
If you screw up, apologize. If they screw up, show forgiveness.
Genuinely say "Thank you" and "I appreciate you" often.
Build their confidence and self-esteem.
Treat them fairly.
Balance toughness with tenderness.
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Post by fbdoc on Apr 9, 2009 16:19:08 GMT -6
touchdownmaker said it - and it applies to kids, parents, teachers, and administrators.
Learn their name and call them by it! I just hate it when I hear a coach say, "Hey #24..." Same with parents. Show them a basic respect by remembering their name and they (just maybe) will show you the respect you deserve.
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Post by zbessac on Apr 9, 2009 17:53:51 GMT -6
Maybe I am wrong here, but shouldn't we treat them the way we want them to treat us? I want them to call me by my name, my name just happens to be coach. I want them to look at me in the eye when they talk to me, I want them to be honest with me even if it is brutally honest. I just try to treat my players the way I want them to treat mee. I hold myself to the same standards that I hold them and it seem to work very well for us.
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 10, 2009 9:36:49 GMT -6
I agree with zbessac Day 1 I tell my players that respect is a 2 way street. If they act like men, Ill treat them like men, if they want to act like a kid, that is how they will be treated and that wont last very long. Usually though, once they understand that you care about them as a person, they will do whatever you want.
be honest and consistent call them by their name ask them how their day went, how schools going, etc. say thank you and good job when needed admit when your wrong
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Post by coachcb on Apr 10, 2009 12:23:26 GMT -6
"People want to know that YOU CARE, before they want to know what you YOU KNOW."
This quote has really helped shape the way that I coach and treat my players. My guys know several things:
1. That I will never raise my voice to them, berate them, or swear at them.
2. They will get the same coaching and attention as the next player. This holds true from the first guy on the depth chart to the last.
3. They know that I will repeat myself an infinite amount of times about any number of skills; and I will do so without getting upset. But, they also know that if I tell them the same thing a dozen times and it's not getting done, that they shouldn't expect playing time.
4. They know that I will always be honest with them and that they can come talk to me about anything. They will get an honest answer about what they do well and what they need to improve upon.
5. They know, that based upon the above statements, I respect them and will treat them as such. And, because they know that I respect them, they know that I expect the same level of respect from them. A couple of them have found out the hard way what happens when they treat me poorly; especially given that I treat them so well.
I had one of our starters talk back to me while I was coaching him, I sent him home and told him to come back when he felt like apologizing. He came back the next day and apologized, but I counted his absence against him and sat him for the first half of the next game. I had another player refuse to do something I asked of him (stand up while icing his shoulder), I sent him home and told him to come back when he was ready to apologize. He came back with a "I'm sorry, but you should apologize to me too" apology, so I sent him home again. He didn't come back.
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Post by touchdowng on Apr 10, 2009 14:57:04 GMT -6
With all due respect to kylem56 I always treat our players like young men. If our players act out in the community or the school I still treat them like men.
Not sure why you would change your approach based on how the kid is behaving.
Part of the respect aspect for a coach or any adult working with youth is to show them what it is suppose to look like despite what type of outside behaviors they are being treated with.
In a program of over 110 players we have very FEW behavior problems since we've taken the program over. I honestly believe much of that has to do with our approach with our players.
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Post by kylem56 on Apr 10, 2009 16:40:08 GMT -6
With all due respect to kylem56 I always treat our players like young men. If our players act out in the community or the school I still treat them like men. Not sure why you would change your approach based on how the kid is behaving. Part of the respect aspect for a coach or any adult working with youth is to show them what it is suppose to look like despite what type of outside behaviors they are being treated with. In a program of over 110 players we have very FEW behavior problems since we've taken the program over. I honestly believe much of that has to do with our approach with our players. I understand where you are coming from and take no offense at all. The men I coach are anywere from 18-22 years old so that that point in their lives, they should have an idea on how to behave like a grown man.
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Post by touchdowng on Apr 10, 2009 20:46:56 GMT -6
I understand where you are coming from and take no offense at all. The men I coach are anywere from 18-22 years old so that that point in their lives, they should have an idea on how to behave like a grown man. [/quote]
Agreed!
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Post by coachorr on Apr 10, 2009 20:57:52 GMT -6
Some really powerful comments here. Thank you.
There is a guy coaching in Utah, we stopped there on our way to a BYU 7 on 7 camp. This guy has been in the same position for over 35 years. It amazed me when I watched how he spoke to the players and his mannerisms. He didn't have to do anything but say, "listen up men", and every one of his players was quiet and paid attention. Everything that came out of his mouth was kind and respectful. The whole event left me with the feeling of, "that is the kind of coach I want to be". It was truly awesome.
Thanks for the great insights.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Apr 13, 2009 7:08:07 GMT -6
I want to add a footnote to this great discussion. Several coaches talked about treating players fairly or treating them all the same. I shared that view until I read the book by John Wooden, Wooden on Leadership. In it he says treating all players the same is unfair because some players give more than others. He said you should treat them as they deserve to be treated, based on what they have earned. It's a coach's duty to model respect, and every player should be shown basic respect, but some have earned more respect than others. Do you agree of disagree?
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Post by touchdowng on Apr 13, 2009 7:33:07 GMT -6
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I agree to a large degree.
I have three children. Do I treat them all the same? No way. Their behaviors have much do to with how they are treated. Do I love them all the same. Probably not but I love them all with the same intensity.
I have read a ton on Wooden and there is nothing he has written that doesn't hold lots of truths. However, I sometimes wonder how his overall philosophy would have been had he been in charge of 100 High School aged boys rather than 12 hand picked collegiate players. I've always felt that basektball coaches do the best job of building relationships with their players but they have a much smaller team than many of us do.
I would say that I show respect to all of my players but I probably handle each a little different based on their history within our program and I explain this to parents and players at the beginning of each season. Trust is a huge foundation in our program and we talk about it constantly. As long as trust is intact, we will work hard for our players but will also hold them accountable. I feel that if we don't hold our players (and coaches) accountable, that is a form of disrespect.
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Post by gpoulin76 on Apr 13, 2009 8:30:18 GMT -6
I want to add a footnote to this great discussion. Several coaches talked about treating players fairly or treating them all the same. I shared that view until I read the book by John Wooden, Wooden on Leadership. In it he says treating all players the same is unfair because some players give more than others. He said you should treat them as they deserve to be treated, based on what they have earned. It's a coach's duty to model respect, and every player should be shown basic respect, but some have earned more respect than others. Do you agree of disagree? Totally agree. All players are treated fairly. Not every player is treated equally. Treating everyone equally is inherently, unequal.
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