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Post by coachwaggle on Mar 25, 2009 12:48:17 GMT -6
this season i'm planning on bringing in my players on saturdays after friday games. does anyone out here have a successful and productive saturday schedule?
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 25, 2009 12:58:42 GMT -6
DO BREAKFAST AND FILM from 9-10:30am
I think its easier to get coaches and players out of bed if you buy some mcdonalds breakfast burritos, egg biscuits and mcmuffins. coffee for the coaches.
then after film, have one group run plays in the gym, the other lift, switch places in half an hour. Send everyone home after that unless they are JV players who need another hour before Mondays game.
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Post by coachsky on Mar 25, 2009 14:58:11 GMT -6
We have a light lifting and open training room Saturday at 9:00. We get out of their after by 10:30. It's a great time. We do it to get guys to go to bed early on game nights. We've all gone for pancakes afterwards, or had 50 kids and coaches drop in on a nearby McDonalds.
We buy Krispy Kremes for shutouts. We run the game film. We have a local Prep HS show that runs highlights at 10:00 and the kids love staying around and watching that.
If your having a great season it is some of the best team building time and you'll find the place is packed, no one will want to miss. It's a little hard to get guys there and excited to be there, if your losing.
It makes our Mondays and Tuesday's better, guys recover quicker, we have a better evaluation of dings.
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Post by champ93 on Mar 25, 2009 17:19:01 GMT -6
As coaches, we come in @ 7am to breakdown the previous night's film. The 9th/JV coach breakdown next week's opponent. Our kids come in @9 w/ offense watching film first one week, defense first the next week. While one group watches film, the other lifts, then we switch. The OC will go into the breakdown room to get a feel while we watch D, then vice versa. The kids are done around 11. Coaches-well sometimes it's longer than others.
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Post by bluboy on Mar 25, 2009 17:39:29 GMT -6
Entire teams comes in at 8A.M. guys who played Friday night run and lift. Other guys lift and walk through to prepare for JV game (Monday). After the varsity lifts, they stay and watch the game film for about an 60-90 minutes. JV's dismssed after the the workout.
Defensive coaches are breaking down video while offensive coaches run the workout. Entire staff is present for team video.
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Post by husky44 on Mar 25, 2009 18:07:51 GMT -6
I have been in programs that had the kids come in on Saturday and ones that did not. Which is better? I liked not bringing the kids in on Sat. It gave them some family time and time to relax. I felt like they were more fresh and ready to learn on Monday. What do others think?
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 25, 2009 18:19:42 GMT -6
Practice Starts 7am. Whole program stretches. Varsity then runs while JV and and Frosh practice fundamentals (in full gear). Varsity ice baths and watch film as offensive and defensive units while JV and Frosh continue practice (team portion of practice). Position coaches come back in and review specific plays watching film as units.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 18:55:41 GMT -6
We also do not bring kids or coaches in on Saturday. It is a great break for everyone and keeps everybody fresh. No worry about unexcused absences, excuses, college visits, etc.
There is usually other athletic events at our school on Saturdays and the trainer is around for the kids that need them.
Saturday workouts become a lot tougher on morale during the losing seasons.
No Saturday workouts is not for everyone but it has worked for us.
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Post by groundchuck on Mar 25, 2009 19:00:48 GMT -6
We don't bring kids in on Saturday.
Coaching staff does not meet on Saturday. We all have copies of the DVDs we need (our game, opponent's scout vid) and we watch it on our own time. Staff meets on Sunday.
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Post by phantom on Mar 25, 2009 19:10:59 GMT -6
We don't bring kids in on Saturday. Coaching staff does not meet on Saturday. We all have copies of the DVDs we need (our game, opponent's scout vid) and we watch it on our own time. Staff meets on Sunday. That's the same way that we do it although sometimes we have JV games on Saturday mornings.
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Post by slimbo7722 on Mar 25, 2009 19:17:58 GMT -6
coaches in by 8 to break down film of night befores game. kids in by 10 to do a light jog and weight workout. kids watch film with coaches and leave. coaches in sunday to break down next opponent film.
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Post by fbcoach74 on Mar 25, 2009 19:31:27 GMT -6
we come in at 10:00 and watch film with the varsity. Jv plays on saturday morning. It usually last 45 minutes. Then we take them out and go through a good warm up. Then about 25 minutes of light running which builds up to sprints towards the end. Just to get them loose. From there we go through a partner stretching period and finishe it off with ice baths we are usually done by noon.
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Post by PSS on Mar 25, 2009 19:41:04 GMT -6
Coaches in by 7 to grade film by positions. Kids come in at 9:00, coaches take them through lifting and running routine. Break up into defense and offense or the side of the ball they played the most. Coaches take them through an extensive film session. We use it as a teaching tool. Film session usually goes for 1 1/2. Kids are out by noon.
Coaches work till 2:00 breaking down next weeks opponents. Come in on Sunday to complete.
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Post by Coach Huey on Mar 25, 2009 20:33:51 GMT -6
I have been in programs that had the kids come in on Saturday and ones that did not. Which is better? I liked not bringing the kids in on Sat. It gave them some family time and time to relax. I felt like they were more fresh and ready to learn on Monday. What do others think? was at a program that did this. kids didn't come in to lift or run on saturdays. we would grade the film in the morning. then, make notes for each player and place in their locker. copy of film was set out in the locker room at noon and any player that wanted to could come in to watch. did the same thing at 4 pm on sunday. kids could watch if they wanted to. then, monday we would do a quick film session in position meetings to go over their notes sheet from friday night and begin the scouting report. we met in position meetings every day so much of the film load was spread out. position meetings were very specific rather than watching the whole game -- went much faster. of course, we were very large school with lots of meeting space and projectors, editing system network, etc. the qb's and i would watch specific, selected (edited out and cut) clips - both good and bad. we didn't watch the entire set of offensive plays. those 'non factor' plays were omitted and focus was on getting better and reinforcing things that were done well and exceptional. position meetings are much more efficient and effective (not to mention, shorter) than whole group or team meetings. but, staffing and space (and size of school, 1-side of ball, etc.) are major limiting factors.
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Post by begreat on Mar 25, 2009 20:52:49 GMT -6
Jr High coaches input film data at 5am. Coaches come watch previous game at 7am, kids come at 9 run, lift and watch film. Coaches leave at about 5 depending on how much film we have to break down. Then we come on Sunday morning and leave lateeeeeeeeeeee.
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Post by 19delta on Mar 25, 2009 20:57:02 GMT -6
position meetings are much more efficient and effective (not to mention, shorter) than whole group or team meetings. but, staffing and space (and size of school, 1-side of ball, etc.) are major limiting factors. Agreed. I worked at a school where we crowded 45 kids in one classroom to watch film. It was a disaster. Kids fell asleep because it was so hot and stuffy and the jagbags on the team would do everything they could to disrupt the film session...playing grabass and farting as much as possible. The best use of film time was at the first school I was at. We used three classrooms. We would watch film for an hour and a half. The first 45 minutes were spent with offensive positions (OL in one classroom and RBs, WRs, and QBs in another classroom). Then we would break and go 45 minutes of defensive positions (DL/LB/DBs). It was very effective because you had a relatively small group of kids to deal with and you only had to watch film that pertained to those particular kids.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 26, 2009 3:44:06 GMT -6
I have been in programs that had the kids come in on Saturday and ones that did not. Which is better? I liked not bringing the kids in on Sat. It gave them some family time and time to relax. I felt like they were more fresh and ready to learn on Monday. What do others think? was at a program that did this. kids didn't come in to lift or run on saturdays. we would grade the film in the morning. then, make notes for each player and place in their locker. copy of film was set out in the locker room at noon and any player that wanted to could come in to watch. did the same thing at 4 pm on sunday. kids could watch if they wanted to. then, monday we would do a quick film session in position meetings to go over their notes sheet from friday night and begin the scouting report. we met in position meetings every day so much of the film load was spread out. position meetings were very specific rather than watching the whole game -- went much faster. of course, we were very large school with lots of meeting space and projectors, editing system network, etc. the qb's and i would watch specific, selected (edited out and cut) clips - both good and bad. we didn't watch the entire set of offensive plays. those 'non factor' plays were omitted and focus was on getting better and reinforcing things that were done well and exceptional. position meetings are much more efficient and effective (not to mention, shorter) than whole group or team meetings. but, staffing and space (and size of school, 1-side of ball, etc.) are major limiting factors. I like the notes very much. I think this is a good way to prevent some embarassment to a young player who is doing his best. On the other hand, some of our 'superstar' egos need to be humbled with their errors being highlighted ha ha.
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Post by thunder17 on Mar 26, 2009 11:15:46 GMT -6
How many of you that do not practice on sat. will have practice on sun.? We can't practice on sundays. The coaches will meet but without the kids. Not practicing all weekend seems like an open invitation for kids to party their arses off. We all hope they aren't doing it, but we know some are.
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Post by phantom on Mar 26, 2009 11:24:27 GMT -6
How many of you that do not practice on sat. will have practice on sun.? We can't practice on sundays. The coaches will meet but without the kids. Not practicing all weekend seems like an open invitation for kids to party their arses off. We all hope they aren't doing it, but we know some are. We can't practice on Sunday but do not practice on Saturday. I din't see how practicing Saturday morning stops them from partying Saturday night.
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Post by thunder17 on Mar 26, 2009 12:17:57 GMT -6
Doesn't keep them from partying on sat. night but it does keep them from partying on fridays after the game. One night of boozing is better than two, unless you're a coach. I prefer to booze both nights!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 12:50:34 GMT -6
Not to be consdenscending, but I think you guys who believe an early Sat practice keeps kids from partying Friday night are pretty naive...or maybe I'm just cynical?
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Post by thunder17 on Mar 26, 2009 13:09:59 GMT -6
Wolverine, true. We know that some kids do it. But it may also keep some from doing it as well. Plus, I think Sat. mornings are some of the best times to hang out as a team, especially after a win. Kids talking about great hits or great plays. Once we leave the building on Sat. the past game is history and we come to work monday ready for the upcoming friday.
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Post by atalbert on Mar 26, 2009 13:14:27 GMT -6
We've always done films and light lifting on Sunday nights.
Has anyone on here done it both ways (Sat am vs. Sun pm) and found one to work better than the other?
Personally, I think Sunday nights are the end of the weekend for the kids and you don't get full attention. It seems to me that Saturday mornings would be a logical extension on gamenight on Fridays. The only problem I see is for the coaches to have stuff ready on Sat. mornings.
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Post by coachsky on Mar 26, 2009 15:59:39 GMT -6
Wolverine, true. We know that some kids do it. But it may also keep some from doing it as well. Plus, I think Sat. mornings are some of the best times to hang out as a team, especially after a win. Kids talking about great hits or great plays. Once we leave the building on Sat. the past game is history and we come to work Monday ready for the upcoming friday. This is exactly our experience. When we are running film during our light work out it's to get out all the ooh's and ahh's and commentary. They know Monday's film session is all business. We keep the mood on Saturday mornings pretty low key and are very easy about attendance. If a kid want to go to his brothers Pee Wee game, has to do lawn work for dad, or has any to work, we excuse them for just about anything as long as they tell us Friday night. It's not required for coaches and it's usually our trainer and two to three coaches. The fact is that when we are having a good season and have great team unity, Saturday mornings are fun! And we know it's an accountability tool to get kids in bed. After our games many of the kids go out to eat with parents and other kids at a pre-designated spot as kind of a booster deal. Not mandatory but kids and parents like it. This wraps up around 11-11:30pm. Kids can go home - or they can go get into trouble. Since parents know they are working out in the morning, 90% go home. Their parent like that too!
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Post by khalfie on Mar 26, 2009 17:00:09 GMT -6
What's the argument?
Film Saturday morning... or Monday morning?
For many schools, Monday morning may not be an option... shouldn't school time, be school time?
Its agreed that film review of the previous game is important... film review of the up coming opponent is important...
Its the "when" that seems to be in disagreement.
I firmly believe the team needs to meet after a win or loss... while its fresh in their minds, points need to be hammered home about whats right and wrong. I also like early mornings, because it demands early nights... do both, and it shows... its hard... miss film... and you have hell to pay...
And yall can quit the... early morning meeting are causing kids to miss family time... Nothings happening from 7 to 9am for teenagers but sleeping in... Films important... weights are important... Saturday's are important.
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Post by airman on Mar 26, 2009 17:27:52 GMT -6
saturday morning
8 am film watch in jured meet with doctor and trainer for treatment.
9 am offense on the field Defense in the weight room
1030 offense in the weight room defense on the field
noon go home.
monday
same scedule
we have two heavy lifting session per week and two skills practices where we work strictly on technique .
wed and thur we have game prep practices and special teams.
thurday specail teams and walk thru.
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Post by shortpunter on Mar 26, 2009 17:39:37 GMT -6
Saturdays around here are JV games so the Varsity comes in for a light run stretch and lift. Then the Varsity coaches breakdown some of the film until the JV coaches get back then they do the meeting. Sometitmes it is over @3 others @4 or 5 depending on amount of changes needed. Makes a long day.....
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Post by tarrant on Mar 26, 2009 17:59:46 GMT -6
I wish our JV games were mondays, would make weekend meetings as a full staff much easier.
In highschool we always had saturday meetings usually at 8 with film breakdown ice baths, donuts and some milk. Varsity would also get their 3rd day of lifting in and would go home or if the JV game was home they'd come down to the field to watch.
This year i was on the JV staff and was always at the game by the time we got back usually the coordinators had broken down everything and were gone and we would have our meetings on Monday night at that point if we needed more time.
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Post by phantom on Mar 26, 2009 18:09:10 GMT -6
What's the argument? Film Saturday morning... or Monday morning? For many schools, Monday morning may not be an option... shouldn't school time, be school time? Its agreed that film review of the previous game is important... film review of the up coming opponent is important... Its the "when" that seems to be in disagreement. I firmly believe the team needs to meet after a win or loss... while its fresh in their minds, points need to be hammered home about whats right and wrong. I also like early mornings, because it demands early nights... do both, and it shows... its hard... miss film... and you have hell to pay... And yall can quit the... early morning meeting are causing kids to miss family time... Nothings happening from 7 to 9am for teenagers but sleeping in... Films important... weights are important... Saturday's are important. There's no argument from me. We watch the film Monday afternoon after we lift and before we go over the scout report/game plan. We do not bring in the players on Saturday except for the JVs if they have a game. It's illegal for us to bring in the players on Sunday but that's when we have our staff meeting. As I said there's no argument from me. This has worked for us. If somebody wants to bring them in on Saturday that's fine with me.
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Post by los on Mar 26, 2009 18:49:40 GMT -6
Practice and weights on Saturday....are you guys serious? The game must be getting easier, cause Saturdays for us was.....9am or whenever you woke up......first, try to learn how to walk again.....I always felt and looked, like a truck had run over me, lol......black and blue forearms.....gashed fingers and hands.....etc....etc...etc...always had game damage of some kind........usually took most of the day Saturday to recuperate......Sunday was out, cause that was sandlot football day, showing off for the girls, lol.......by Monday though, we were good to go......but Saturday, no way......would have been a mutiny.......nobody would've showed up! In my coaching jobs though, at the HS....they did like Phantom's group....no saturday stuff, all the coach's came in on Sun. afternoon......the players watched film with the on campus coach's, during the school day, at some point during the week, during their PE/weight training class.
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