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Post by FlexboneOne on Mar 7, 2009 7:28:42 GMT -6
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Post by groundchuck on Mar 7, 2009 7:36:19 GMT -6
I saw that too. Sounds like someone wants government to control every aspect of our lives. I have no problem with oversight boards but it should be controlled by the association or municipality, not the federal or even state governments. It is a slippery slope if something like this gets put into place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 8:46:30 GMT -6
They can have my whistle the day that passes
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Post by kylem56 on Mar 7, 2009 10:44:18 GMT -6
wow..the pussification of america continues
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Post by airman on Mar 7, 2009 14:00:18 GMT -6
this is what americans want. In a recent fox news poll 68% of americans believe the government should give them food, 66% take care of their health care needs, 51% give them a house, 51% said the government shoudl give them a job.
why should youth sports be any different. We have a growing population in America who believes the government should take care of them and level the playing field.
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Post by coachjoe3 on Mar 7, 2009 15:07:26 GMT -6
I think if it truly comes to that, I'll just get out of coaching and play catch with my kids in the back yard.
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Post by coachjoe3 on Mar 7, 2009 15:11:09 GMT -6
I took the liberty of posting it here.
By Kara Yates and Robyn Sidersky CNN (CNN) -- An overcompetitive parent gets into an argument with a stubborn coach because he thinks his child isn't getting enough playing time -- it's a familiar scene on youth sports fields across America.
One critic of the Rhode Island plan said giving parents a outlet for petty complaints "opens up a can of worms."
Now, a Rhode Island senator wants the state to step in and create a formal outlet for the "concerns and objections" some parents have.
Democratic Sen. John Tassoni Jr. introduced a bill that would create a youth sports oversight council on the state level. The council would act as mediator in disputes between parents of youth athletes and sports officials.
In answer to critics, Tassoni said Friday that the notion the bill would mean "big brother" could begin to oversee youth sports is a misconception.
The bill cites the need for a third party to step in at times, stating that "parents lack a proper outlet to share concerns and objections about youth sports."
But the parents are the biggest problem, said Matt Rodrigues, general manager and owner of Teamworks youth sports program in Warwick, Rhode Island.
"They are crazy, especially in Rhode Island. The kids on the court are scared because the parents are yelling and screaming," Rodrigues said.
But the answer, he said, is not to create a council that "makes decisions we can deal with ourselves."
A similar council exists in Waterford, Connecticut -- run by the town, not the state.
"It kind of surprises me that [Rhode Island would] do it on such a large level like that," said Bruce Miller, president of the Waterford Youth Sports Council.
Waterford's council is made up of representatives from the town's 11 sports leagues.
Tassoni's bill states that at least four of the members of the state council would be regional youth sports representatives.
He said the council is needed because right now there is no place to go to resolve disputes.
"There's no place right now to bring a case forward and have a third party take a look at it," he said.
Under the bill, Republican Gov. Donald Carcieri would appoint seven volunteers -- approved by the state Senate and House -- to sit on a panel called the Rhode Island Youth Sports Oversight Council.
Tassoni said the seven-member council wouldn't be made up of politicians, but ex-coaches, ex-officials and ex-athletic directors.
Some adults involved in youth sports aren't happy about it.
One blogger posted concerns on the Web site of a Rhode Island newspaper, the Providence Journal.
"Hey Tassoni: What do you do, [lie] in bed and think to yourself -- 'what haven't me and my cronies either screwed up, bankrupted or embarrassed yet? Hmmmm ... haven't touched Little League yet.' Do me a favor -- and I ask this as a coach and a parent -- stay the hell away from my field!!!!" wrote the blogger.
Others think the government should "concentrate on the state."
Rodrigues of the Teamworks program said giving parents a place to do petty complaining only "opens up a can of worms."
He said the council just "sounds like another way to take power away from our programs -- they have enough [power]."
The governor has not taken a position on the legislation and will not until he reviews the bill, press secretary Amy Kempe said Friday. She added, however, that "there appears to be some vague language and constitutional issues."
The bill states that the volunteers on the council would be expected to "provide oversight and mediation" to youth sports programs in the state, as well as develop and adopt a process to review and address complaints.
In addition, the council would have the authority to establish and collect fines. But the bill does not go into detail about how to implement the reviewing and fining processes.
The bill, with some revisions, is scheduled to be heard by the state Senate on Wednesday. Tassoni hopes to have the council in place by June or July.
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Post by coachjoe3 on Mar 7, 2009 15:21:26 GMT -6
"He said the council is needed because right now there is no place to go to resolve disputes."
I believe there is. Should situation come up that is severe enough, there is the civil and criminal courts. Should the situation not call for that, then it can be resolved through the administration through procedures already in place.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 7, 2009 15:37:04 GMT -6
this is what americans want. In a recent fox news poll 68% of americans believe the government should give them food, 66% take care of their health care needs, 51% give them a house, 51% said the government shoudl give them a job. why should youth sports be any different. We have a growing population in America who believes the government should take care of them and level the playing field. You are exactly right. We spent years fighting a cold war, only to start moving towards a socialist state.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 7, 2009 21:39:30 GMT -6
And a few years down the road, a committee to second-guess the youth sports council....
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Post by wwol on Mar 14, 2009 18:26:49 GMT -6
This seems like it will increase the number of complaints made
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Post by hounds on Mar 15, 2009 9:17:22 GMT -6
Quote,"The most terrifying words in the English language are,I'm from the Government,I'm here to help" Ronald Reagan.
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Post by coachwarner on Mar 16, 2009 21:04:55 GMT -6
Here is my vote for a volunteer to sit on the panel called the Rhode Island youth sports oversight council. Maybe he can help adults, to stop behaving like children.
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Post by broncoe40 on Mar 17, 2009 20:45:01 GMT -6
First of all this legislation is in Rhode Island, not exactly a mecca for youth sports (no offense to anyone from or involved in youth sports in R.I.)--- With all the budget deficit problems plaguing state governments across the country this will be stuck in R.I. with no worry of a "domino" effect concerning a mass gravitation toward govenment control of youth sports. Nice discussion foder but that's it....discussion. When coaches leave youth sports, volunteer coaches mind you, things cannot stay the same. Just MO.
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Post by scotdaking on Apr 2, 2009 7:26:29 GMT -6
You coaches are all over this one. I am surprised. All my liberal friends think I am crazy for criticizing the socialist policies of this president. I may find more support here!!! Love the Reagan quote and is pussification a word? I will look that up on Wikapedia. Remember, coming soon, no more playing tag at recess and no more keeping score. Excuse me now while I go brush up on my Chinese.
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Post by coach4life on Apr 9, 2009 16:53:41 GMT -6
Come on, guys, get with the program, it's for the kids!
These politicians that have removed themselves so far from reality make me want to puke the way they get re-elected with voter bribes - free drugs, amnesty for illegals, and the lowest of all - "It's for the children!". As a result you can't sell a kids motorcycle because a few components have lead and a kid might lick them (so they ride a bigger and more dangerous one instead), libraries are having to take "The Cat and The Hat" and other kids books out of libraries because they have minuscule amounts of lead in the ink that a kid might lick and now this.
It won't end until people wake up and vote these idiots out of office. If only we could enact term limits, but I'll stop now, I feel a real rant coming on...
It's easy to be a liberal, no thought is required other than the world should be sunshine, lollipops and rainbows, and it's the governments job to do it. I thought it was crazy when I first heard it but I'm starting to agree that liberalism is a mental disorder. If not that certainly laziness in thought.
Thank you, I'll shut up now and go sit back down to watch the Masters.
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