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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 2, 2009 17:14:53 GMT -6
But it bothers me that about 1/2 the kids in the weightroom have their pants half way down there a$$. They aren't showing any skin, and not being disrespectful. and I don't know why it bothers me, it just doesn't seem right... Every now and then, I ask them, in a nice way, to pull their pants up...they always do and don't complain about it. For Gods sake we use to wear gym pants outside of our sweatpants and that must have looked stoopid. Should I let it go?? What do you guys do?
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Post by coachjoe3 on Mar 2, 2009 17:52:49 GMT -6
Coach,
Unless it is something that might interfere with safety, which in this case it might, I'm learning to let go of a lot of the wacky things kids are into these days. ;D
But I really would look into the safety aspect of it. If the sweats riding low interfere with technique, then I would have them fix it right away.
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Post by coach4life on Mar 2, 2009 18:01:47 GMT -6
I hear 'ya Coach, man I do! But as long as they are not putting themselves in jeopardy, sometimes you just have to shake your head and mutter "What is up with kids these days?".
Maybe someone else will remember it, but I recall a quote from way back when (like ancient Greece) that spoke of the "what the heck?!?" factor with kids like 2000 years BC or some such...
Wanna twist their minds? Just ask 'em if that rap song they are listening to is available on 8-track.... LOL
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Post by k on Mar 2, 2009 18:11:40 GMT -6
But it bothers me that about 1/2 the kids in the weightroom have their pants half way down there a$$. They aren't showing any skin, and not being disrespectful. and I don't know why it bothers me, it just doesn't seem right... Every now and then, I ask them, in a nice way, to pull their pants up...they always do and don't complain about it. For Gods sake we use to wear gym pants outside of our sweatpants and that must have looked stoopid. Should I let it go?? What do you guys do? Not your business. They are in the weight room. That is your business... Not how they wear their pants. |
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Post by coachinghopeful on Mar 2, 2009 18:46:12 GMT -6
You're not old. I grew up with classmates sagging starting in about the 7th grade and I think it looks stupid, too. I don't know how that ever stood the test of time. I wonder if any of these kids even know how sagging became fashionable (hints: prison inmates and drug dealers)... Still though, if they're not giving you any problems, I guess you should just let 'em be. When they start sagging their game pants, that's when you know it's gone too far  |
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Post by hawke on Mar 2, 2009 19:10:56 GMT -6
Besides the "prison" education I will usually ask them if they would like to talk in high "C" or would they enjoy a permanent wedgie; and if they still insist they are asked if they would prefer to go to the hospital on 3 legs to get my foot out of their a__! They pull them up for the time being at least, although they don't have to reach over their shoulder for their wallet as was the case many years ago, (LOL). Hawke
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Post by ccscoach on Mar 2, 2009 19:20:36 GMT -6
I am 25 years old and maybe I am a hard@$$ or just a Dumb@$$ but if I see something I don't like in the weightroom I nip it in the bud. "That which we allow we encourage." I tell my guys the only people that can show underwear in the weightroom are victoria secert models and none of them look like that. So you pull your damn pants up. The weightroom is my time. I also don't allow hats in the weightroom. I also only allow colors that I approve(blue,gold, white, black, or gray) if you wear a non approved color you do an I remember.
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Post by bluboy on Mar 2, 2009 19:33:55 GMT -6
I'm with you ccscoach. We don't allow droopy drawers, and we don't allow hats. Our players must wear school colors and football T-shirts. If they don't have a football T-shirt, we will give them one.
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Post by newhc on Mar 2, 2009 19:37:40 GMT -6
Hey Coaches,
I am with you guys. The weightroom attire is school colors, and sag. When lifting weights it is a hazard, nobody want to see your behind when your doing squats.
I am also a sickler for that in my class.
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Post by airman on Mar 2, 2009 19:41:51 GMT -6
we have PE uniforms and every one who is the weight room is expected to be wearing the PE uniform athlete or not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2009 19:42:18 GMT -6
Yeah, I'd let it go. As long as they're not tripping over it, or showing too much...what the hell let em go. Guaranteed there will be something else WAY more important to worry about
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Post by joelee on Mar 2, 2009 19:50:03 GMT -6
We don't allow certain things in our program and that is one of them. Its simple, expect more, you get more.
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Post by chief10bears on Mar 2, 2009 20:29:56 GMT -6
No sags, hats, or sitting down unless lifting. Must be in football shorts and shirt. During S&C time, football members only.
We crank the music and intensity up, but still pay attention to detail.
Weight room time is just as important as on-the-field practice and we definitely wouldn't allow a "sag" of the football pants.
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Post by superpower on Mar 2, 2009 20:38:22 GMT -6
We are fortunate because our kids don't sag in the weightroom. If they did, I think I would address it and put a stop to it. We have had a variety of college coaches visit our school the past two years, and they like to stop by the weightroom. I wouldn't want them to see our kids sagging while lifting. It just wouldn't be an image that I want to have associated with our program.
We also have a school rule that prohibits sagging, so it would be pretty easy for us to deal with it.
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Post by schultbear74 on Mar 2, 2009 20:48:02 GMT -6
My main problem is getting kids to think. I do have them lift their drawers too
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 2, 2009 21:04:35 GMT -6
Thanks guys...It doesn't interfere w/ their lifting.... I don't make a big deal out of it..just wanted some opinions.... I am getting old...I didn't know it was called sagging....I did make the 350# kid pull up his practice pants one day when we could see the hairy crack of his a$$ even the kids were disgusted
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Post by k on Mar 2, 2009 21:46:52 GMT -6
I turned down the JV baseball position because the baseball coach likes to put his nose in other peoples business that has no relation to the sport. Likes to force specific haircuts, no facial hair, no hats backwards whatever else on his players when it has nothing to do with baseball or his team. I wouldn't coach for him and I wouldn't coach for most people in this thread. I think your priorities are completely out of whack.
I don't care how my four year three sport letter winner four year starter RB with a 4.0 and more service awards than you can shake a stick at wears his pants.
Our school has a fashion club that the foods/design teacher runs. Maybe ya'll would be more comfortable running a club like that if your priority is what style a kids pants are instead of a football program.
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Post by phantom on Mar 2, 2009 22:52:27 GMT -6
But it bothers me that about 1/2 the kids in the weightroom have their pants half way down there a$$. They aren't showing any skin, and not being disrespectful. and I don't know why it bothers me, it just doesn't seem right... Every now and then, I ask them, in a nice way, to pull their pants up...they always do and don't complain about it. For Gods sake we use to wear gym pants outside of our sweatpants and that must have looked stoopid. Should I let it go?? What do you guys do? We tell them to pull their damn pants up. |
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Post by byuwolverine on Mar 2, 2009 22:59:52 GMT -6
It's just a fad.....
Im going into my third year of coaching and I am in college. When I look at the pictures of coaches 20-30 years ago with coaches wearing their shorts tight, mid thigh level or even further up with tight shirts tucked in and I think to myself no way in you know what would I wear that!
Main point is just tell them to pull them up or its 20 pushups and 20 down ups for each time they let their shorts sag.
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Post by ghengiskhan on Mar 3, 2009 1:23:54 GMT -6
K, how did that 4.0 all star running back wear his pants? just curious..
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 3, 2009 4:30:10 GMT -6
I always ask my kids " are you looking for a date?" and the kid looks at me dumbfounded??? and I say "then pull up your pants, only men in jail wear their pants like that when they are looking for a date" - that usually works.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Mar 3, 2009 6:43:40 GMT -6
I make it a team thing. One of our rules is that no one is allowed to dress or act in a way that brings attention to themselves as an individual when they are with the team. When there is a violation, I pull that kids aside and explain it to them like this:
"When you dress this way, you are telling everybody on this team that you think you are better than they are. Do you think you are better than they are? You are trying to set yourself apart from the team. Do you really want to be seperated from your teammates? We are one unit. Part of the sacrifice that you have to make to be a part of this unit is a little bit of your individuality. If you want to dress like that on your own time, I'm all for it, but when you are with the team, we all dress the same."
I usuallly don't have any trouble after that little speech.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Mar 3, 2009 7:32:05 GMT -6
Its a phase like anything else. There are bigger fish to fry than how a kid wears his pants. I certainly wouldn't make a rule about it.
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Post by mariner42 on Mar 3, 2009 8:24:15 GMT -6
I don't get it, but I also don't act on it. I'm only 24 and I've always thought it was ridiculous, even when I was their age. I like my pants/shorts to be in a position where I don't have to pull them up every 2-3 minutes.
I love the ones who, in an attempt to keep their pants up, have a belt cinching their pants just below their ass cheeks. Right idea, wrong application buck-os...
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 3, 2009 9:47:21 GMT -6
I have talked with the head coach about my concerns. IMO, this is a team culture issue. My HC is pretty laid back w/ the kids. I work for the head coach and implement his vision. if HC not going to be a hard a$$ about it, I'm not going to either. How can I be the only one enforcing something that is not really directly related to football. A coaching staff has to be on the same page whether you like it or not.... If he told me not to splill my Sam..that would be an entirely different story
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 3, 2009 10:38:43 GMT -6
We had a guard from the state prison come talk with our students a few years ago. He explained that the sagging pants within the prison system was a signal for "easy access" (for those who did not want confrontation and were signaling that they would willingly... um... submit).
Whether that information is true or not, no one has worn their pants like that here since...
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Post by ajreaper on Mar 3, 2009 11:15:45 GMT -6
I turned down the JV baseball position because the baseball coach likes to put his nose in other peoples business that has no relation to the sport. Likes to force specific haircuts, no facial hair, no hats backwards whatever else on his players when it has nothing to do with baseball or his team. I wouldn't coach for him and I wouldn't coach for most people in this thread. I think your priorities are completely out of whack. I don't care how my four year three sport letter winner four year starter RB with a 4.0 and more service awards than you can shake a stick at wears his pants. Our school has a fashion club that the foods/design teacher runs. Maybe ya'll would be more comfortable running a club like that if your priority is what style a kids pants are instead of a football program. In the real world people do care. How you show up for an interview, or to a job matters, how you talk to people the langauge you use matters in the real world. People make judgements based on appearence and conduct all the time and I think to some extent you teach work place skills through your sport. Now if you are trying to micro manage out of season or on an athletes personal time that's one thing asking that they tuck in their shirt and wear their pants at the waist when traveling to a game is not being over bearing at all. Having a dress code for the weight room falls under that heading as well. |
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Post by ftbll7801 on Mar 3, 2009 11:31:25 GMT -6
But it bothers me that about 1/2 the kids in the weightroom have their pants half way down there a$$. They aren't showing any skin, and not being disrespectful. and I don't know why it bothers me, it just doesn't seem right... Every now and then, I ask them, in a nice way, to pull their pants up...they always do and don't complain about it. For Gods sake we use to wear gym pants outside of our sweatpants and that must have looked stoopid. Should I let it go?? What do you guys do? Not to be harsh coach but they are my kids, in my weight room. I only have one rule and that is Dont embarrass the program. And that most assuredly is an embarrassment to the program. It looks bad on you, your program, and most importantly your school. Not your business. They are in the weight room. That is your business... Not how they wear their pants. |
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Post by jgordon1 on Mar 3, 2009 12:50:57 GMT -6
I have talked with the head coach about my concerns. IMO, this is a team culture issue. My HC is pretty laid back w/ the kids. I work for the head coach and implement his vision. if HC not going to be a hard a$$ about it, I'm not going to either. How can I be the only one enforcing something that is not really directly related to football. A coaching staff has to be on the same page whether you like it or not.... If he told me not to splill my Sam..that would be an entirely different story I disagree. They are his kids, but they are also MY kids. I have invested interest in this program as well. To me it's no different than language. If the HC allows the kids to cuss a blue streak does that mean I have to let them? Not at all. The N-word is ever present in our kid's everyday language, but it's not around me, not in my home, car, classroom, locker room, meeting room, weight room or presence. I make it known and I don't hear it from players or students in my class. reaper makes a good point, if you went to the Doctor and he came out with his khakis halfway off his @$$, you'd be going to a different doctor. HC or not, if I see something I don't like I'm going to say something. Sometimes you have to stand alone, that's just how it goes sometimes and it may not change anything, but my opinion and stance on the particular matter will be known. This is why I asked the question. In life, you have to pick your battles. is this battle worth fighting? If I am HC I'm fighting it. as I said you pick your battles, you draw a line in the sand you better be able to defend it. The question you need to ask is am I going to fight my stud qb over it? Is it worth it? I've gone toe to toe w/ kids anfd the HC has backed me. why would I paint my HC in a corner if I knew he didn't care. If I don't like his policy, I have to choices accept it or leave. Now supposing I am the HC and I don't care if my kids sag.. you come up and decide to enforce your own rules and create your own culture regarding IMO a relatively minor matter. we are going to have some problems. no one, I MEAN NO ONE is going to set he tone of my team |
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Post by k on Mar 3, 2009 15:34:35 GMT -6
K, how did that 4.0 all star running back wear his pants? just curious.. Much lower than I ever would for sure. As does my student body president TE/CB with a schedule full of AP classes. As does my Split end/ free safety with a full honors schedule and high honor roll every semester. Don't really care how they wear their pants. I'm not a fashion expert I'm a history teacher and football coach. Personally I find all the fashion critiques here to be quite flamboyant. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion just think some of you might be more comfortable starting up a fashion club if this is a pressing issue to you. They look like a fool. It is no big deal to look like a fool. It isn't hurting anyone in any way. Only time I've ever had to address a student or players dress off the field was when a kid showed up wearing a confederate flag shirt to a school function clearly in violation of the hate speech restriction in the student handbook. But my guess is that the same people who are forcing the kids not to wear their pants a certain way would have no problem with them sporting a confederate flag. =) |
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