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Post by CoachBorrelli on Feb 18, 2009 20:41:01 GMT -6
Coaches, I need a plan to help our players get recruited. Not everyone is D1 but plenty good enough (IMO) for D-II, III, NAIA. What are you methods to get these kids exposed? What is the plan for coaching staff, parents, player?
I'm sure most of the coaches on this board are either coaches at those D-II,III schools or High school coaches who have a pretty good network.
Are there specific Websites NCAA coaches use to search for players?
How do the East coast school recruit the west coast?
Any help is appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 9:37:19 GMT -6
Most colleges send out blank DVDs or video tapes early in the season and ask for 2 game films. They also will often do this in the spring along with questionairres about your top players, players in the conference, etc. Many coaching staffs make spring loops where they stop in and visit.
Beyond that, send film with info about players they need to take a look at.
When I coached the college level we didn't put much stock in the recruiting websites, though I think that may have changed some. A lot of smaller schools need players and have limited recruiting budgets so a couple game films and info about particular players is a good start for them.
I'd say you can send film with a roster, maybe note the starters or All-Staters, etc. players to look at--whatever.
When I was a college G.A. part of my duties was to take all incoming info and sort and organize and cross-reference everything. What delayed us in looking at a particular kid was info coming in pieces from a kid. For example, if a kid sends a note saying "I'm interested in playing football at your school" then send the film too. The note and name is forgotten because there's no film. So send the film. Include stats--height, weight, etc. GPA, etc. A great thing for them to include is the school's questionairre if they can print it off the net.
This isn't something you need to do as a coach, but something a kid and parents can organize.
Too many parents/kids get hung up on highlight films and in my opinion not enough coaches do. Anyone can look like a star on a highlight tape. On its own it isn't considered as strongly. But with 2 game films, a 4-6 minute tape has tremendous value. If the kid makes one heck of a play in about 4 games but those aren't his best games, they get missed. A few highlights show what the kid is capable of. That's important.
For the coach, put films on DVDs when you get them from colleges, or burn several copies and send them to regional schools where your kids can play.
But the most important thing, is don't oversell a kid or kids who won't make it or if you aren't sure they can play at that level. Nothing hurts a high school program's recruiting awareness more than a coach who really oversells a kid, then the college watches a few films, and likes it off that impression and then takes the coach at his word. Then the kid isn't nearly the athlete he was made out to be, etc. Then a college coach will say, "that coach never gives us the straight info on his kids."
But when coaches come into the school bend over backwards to help them talk to kids. If they call ahead of time then get your potential players informed so they can come down and visit. Give up the office for them, offer them film, etc.
I know nothing about your program, your team, your players or your league, but if colleges aren't paying much attention then they're either neglecting a potential pipeline or they haven't been aided much in the past from previous coaches etc.
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Post by jgordon1 on Feb 19, 2009 10:10:04 GMT -6
another thing that I think TOG put on the board is to post player hilites on Google and then email coaches about him. saves time and postage
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 19, 2009 10:28:45 GMT -6
Coach here is what I do:
Have a file of each players that has: 1. Copy of updated transcripts 2. Two game tapes with some hi-lights 3. SAT/ACT Scores
That is in a folder. This is for my coaches who drop in the spring and fall. I want to give them something tangible.
In the spring of their sophomore and junior year I send out a mass email to around 50 schools about our kids (I am in VA - So VA, VA Tech, JMU, Richmond, W & M, ODU, Christopher Newport, Bridgewater, Shepherd....).
OVer the years I have developed a good relationship with these coaches so I usually get good honest feedback. I will send out DVDs or Clips online (If the players have it) to any school...
We just ordered APEX and we plan to have a site online this spring so coaches can go in and watch our players online..
Sending tape is great but I found from doing this (And from being a college coach too) most of these tapes get lost or never make it to their destination.
From there our players go to one day camps (We also do a team camp) and we also do 7 on 7 tournaments at local colleges. This allows our players to get a good evaluation.
Biggest thing is to contact the coach via email and phone calls and get them into your building in the spring so they can SEE the kid up close and also so you can give them the tapes, transcripts and scores.....
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Post by tothehouse on Feb 19, 2009 10:45:23 GMT -6
We use DSV to create our players highlights. The HC gets the players transcripts and we turn them into PDF files. We email the players highlights (and full games) to ourselves through DSV Anywhere. We now can forward the email to a college coach that has the players highlights, game film, and transcripts.....IN AN EMAIL!!! No postage, No DVD burn, No packaging. It's a beautiful thing. I have also seen special player websites like this.... www.neaseprospects.com/ Have recruiters go right to this website and you can get them calling you all the time....I'm guessing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 11:14:49 GMT -6
My final suggestion is this: next time you have a coach in the building or go to a clinic, ask what works best.
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Post by saintrad on Feb 19, 2009 12:57:00 GMT -6
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Post by Coach Vint on Feb 19, 2009 15:39:01 GMT -6
Two things: If you have a kid you think is D1 or 1AA, don't wait until the middle of his senior year to send out film. Send film out of that kid as soon as possible. If he has s stud sophomore year, send a 3 to 4 minute highlight film and 2 games after his sophomore year. Send it with a copy of his transcript. Send film during the junior season as well, as well as an updated transcript and SAT/ACT score. Call the recruiting coordinator and ask him to come by during the May recruiting period.
Point 2: Just because we think a kid is D1 doesn't mean he is. It sometimes is a numbers game. Too many kids set their sites on a D-1 school because they are getting some interest. Then, no offers come, and they have no where to go. If a kid doesn't have an offer by summer of his junior year, start sending tape to the D-II's and I-AA schools.
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Post by bigm0073 on Feb 19, 2009 19:38:53 GMT -6
Great points Coach:
If your kid is a IA - IAA player they really need to have a good junior year.... Like coach before me said they should have a hi-light tape with two game tapes...
In the next month (March) I send out most of my stuff for our IA-IAA players... By the end of May I will have a good evaluation from the college coaches about them. If they are good enough they can go to a one day camp and workout.... Something to keep in mind -
If the player is under six feet tall it is very, very unlikely he gets a IA scholarship unless he runs a BLISTERING 40 and has some CRAZY hi-lights... The good IAA programs in my area basically do not look at kids unless they are IA prospects. It is very competitive.
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Post by CoachBorrelli on Feb 19, 2009 20:31:46 GMT -6
thanks for all the replies! I am trying to put a plan together for our school. The last HC had a good rapport with some of the smaller colleges. I used to talk to him about it and he didn't BS anyone. If they were good he said it, if they had potential he said it. When they panned out they usually took his word. We now have a new HC and I don't think he does any of that. Never discusses it even when we bring it up. I personally have not networked with the Colleges. Didn't know where to begin. I'm serious about it and want them to know it.
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