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Post by rpetrie on Feb 18, 2009 11:51:35 GMT -6
I was just informed by my school administration that I will not have access to the building during our summer break due to an asbestos abatement. That means NO ACCESS to the weight room the entire summer (Mid June through end of August). We start doubles mid-August, so in essence I am looking for info/suggestions of things to do outside of a structured weight room environment. Don't suggest to get the equipment moved to another location, as I've already gone down that road. I'm really looking for practical activities that will still build strength & explosion, that are also low-tech/low-cost.
Thanks in advance...
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Post by John Knight on Feb 18, 2009 11:54:31 GMT -6
Flip tires, carry 5 gallon buckets of sand, volunteer to bale hay for some farmer!
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 18, 2009 11:54:51 GMT -6
there is a lot of plyo stuff you can do by just painting some lines and dots on the ground with spray paint.
for lifting, is there a 24 hour fitness in your area?
they usually have a thing where they let varsity athletes lift for free, they can only come in at certain times(usually around 2-5 pm on weekdays) You could probably talk to them, and find a way of getting at least your var team to be able to go there during that time and get their lifts in
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Post by rpetrie on Feb 18, 2009 11:56:47 GMT -6
Flip tires, carry 5 gallon buckets of sand, volunteer to bale hay for some farmer! Plenty of sand...not many farms on LI...except out east, which is not where we are, but good ideas.
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Post by jpdaley25 on Feb 18, 2009 12:02:28 GMT -6
In a similar situation, a neighboring school simply moved their whole weight room outside and covered it with tarps when they were done. Left it there until the work was done, then moved it back in. Just a thought.
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Post by juice10 on Feb 18, 2009 12:07:25 GMT -6
Just a quick thought and to piggy back an earlier post, try to get as many different strong man challenges. We incorporate tire flipping, tire throwing, carry pails of water (sand), pushing cars. Also utilize the opportunity for a conditioning aspect (running and/or plyometrics or both). Another quick note, we would also run with a tire behind us for a little resistance.
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Post by tdtom on Feb 18, 2009 12:19:23 GMT -6
I would start looking for weight sleds, big tractor tires, sledge hammers, and get creative! PM me if you want to know about some of the stuff we do when we cannot get in the weight room.
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Post by moon on Feb 18, 2009 12:26:25 GMT -6
Pull-ups, push-ups w/ some thing on their backs, squats w/partner laying across shoulders (or piggy back squats). We also use tractor tires as mentioned above. Use your imagination and have kids come up with ideas, that way they have buy in, even in an unusual situation.
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Post by calicoachh on Feb 18, 2009 12:53:30 GMT -6
move your weights out into the parking lot. see if you can tarp the area off or just rent a c-train for the summer and move the weights in and out of it every day. use rubber pads for cleans and such so you don't chunk up the parking lot too bad.
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Post by coachsky on Feb 18, 2009 14:12:23 GMT -6
What was your school admin and district thinking when they scheduled this work? The fact that they gave no consideration to your summer workout program would scare the heck out of me! How important is your program? What kind of influence do you and your program have?
It's not too difficult to schedule a job so that you could be in the weight room for part of the summer and then move to the Gym or another location in the school as they progress with the project. I understand it's asbestos, and it may cost a little more to have them stage the work, but it's done all the time. I can tell you that right now contractors all want work, you can find someone to work around your needs.
I'd be hot. How much is invested annually in your football program? $40K, $80K, $120K. They are going to drastically alter your program without providing a solution? Seems strange to me. We'd have another local facility or some type of solution, I can tell you that.
I'd argue that it's unsafe, your are not going to get your kids in the right condition without a proper weight program. Half the reason we lift is to prevent injuries to joints, and such.
In my opinion your rolling over to easy - Scream, Shout, get them to work it out.
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Post by tothehouse on Feb 18, 2009 15:39:39 GMT -6
We moved the weight room to another building AND got the okay from the local health club to let football players in during certain hours. Even though it was the "health club" thing....it was more opportunity for the players to lift. Definately move the facility and adjust.
We won a championship the year we were moved. It can be done.
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Post by cjkal30 on Feb 18, 2009 17:12:28 GMT -6
We had a similar situation last summer and moved our weight room to the Elementary school. Before we were allowed to do that we had found a local gym and made arrangements with them to give us a low cost for a 3 month membership for the team. The board of ed was then going to pay for it since we were not being given access to our weight room. In the end we opted for the elem. school because it was a better fit for us. If you have a 24 hour fitness they always work with local high schools and during the school yr run a program that allows varsity athletes to use the gym free of charge between 3-5 so maybe with your circumstances they would help you out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 17:15:03 GMT -6
Plyos, Body weight exercises, and oh yeah, lots of steroids......Just kidding
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 18, 2009 17:24:57 GMT -6
Checkout Elliot Hulse- google/youtube...you'll see that he trains guys with sandbags, tires, sledges, sleds, kegs, and other strongman implements- I don't know if it can take the place of your summer wt program, but it'll be better than nothing
Plyos, box jumps, chinups, pushups, sled dragging, tire flipping, med ball throwing.
BTW- if you have tenure I would raise hell to the school board- they pulled the rug out form under you here, maybe they can swing the health club deal like the guys posted above.
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Post by brophy on Feb 18, 2009 17:26:09 GMT -6
wel, the GOOD NEWS is you know ahead of time.....so, you can adjust your development/peaking stages of your off-season Winter-Spring weight program (right?).
Most programs focus on speed and plyos after putting on as much mass in the Winter-early Spring.
The tire-flips, plyo, fartlek, COD, ladders, chute training on a track / field may actually help your kids better adjust to the Fall camp than before (who knows)....
like mentioned - most gyms have discounts (most YMCA's do), or even look at doing (swimming) pool training.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 17:29:04 GMT -6
You may even find a gym that'll let the kids use it for free, you'll have to search around. A guy near us did that, in return for free advertising at team events
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Post by phantom on Feb 18, 2009 17:50:37 GMT -6
I was just informed by my school administration that I will not have access to the building during our summer break due to an asbestos abatement. That means NO ACCESS to the weight room the entire summer (Mid June through end of August). We start doubles mid-August, so in essence I am looking for info/suggestions of things to do outside of a structured weight room environment. Don't suggest to get the equipment moved to another location, as I've already gone down that road. I'm really looking for practical activities that will still build strength & explosion, that are also low-tech/low-cost. Thanks in advance... We had that happen a couple of years ago. We had to leave while they put a new floor in our gym. It sucks, I know. Is it impossible to move most of your gear to another room in the school-a classroom or the auditorium? We moved our stuff to a classroom but we had to be creative with manual resistance stuff and moving the weights outside on nice days. It's a pain but it can be done.
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Post by kboyd on Feb 18, 2009 21:37:57 GMT -6
Plyos, Body weight exercises, and oh yeah, lots of steroids......Just kidding C'mon now, it's not baseball we're talking about. ;D
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Post by rbush on Feb 18, 2009 22:24:07 GMT -6
Coach, have you given any thought to selling this to your athletes? There have been some great ideas listed for workouts already, but I think how you present this could be just as important. I would be concerned that the kids would know why they weren't in the weight room and start thinking "the school doesn't think it's important we lift. If we can't lift we can't get better for football so there's no reason for going hard."
I would also think this would be a prime time to emphasis toughness. Point out how everybody's lifting weights; they're going to do something different. It's going to be intense and really prepare them. Maybe even show them Rocky IV (my answer to many problems is Rocky IV). If you can sell them on the benefits of these workouts I see some up side.
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Post by rpetrie on Feb 18, 2009 23:27:36 GMT -6
Thanks to all for your advice and ideas so far....
There is no option for moving to another part of the building as in fact they are re-locating the in house administration for 8-10 weeks into portable trailers, which means running new telecom lines, setting up temp desks/office areas, etc. You really think they give a crap about re-organizing a weight room for their athletics, much less a football team??? I already inquired about getting stuff moved to the Middle School or Elementary School gym...no luck. They only option is to get the easily moved things (plates, bars, dumbells) put into an external storage unit on site for access. No machines will be touched. I'm actually just hoping that I can have access to the locker rooms, gymnasium & coaches office when we start doubles in mid-August.
As many have said I am approaching the local gyms (2) about offering a deal, but neither is open 24 hrs., and will probably make it limited in numbers & hours. But hopefully something is better than nothing.
Perhaps it will become a better "team building" situation and we can rally around a cause. Seeing that we are losing 19/22 starters...it can't hurt. We do have access to local beaches, so sand training might become a unique avenue. Should also have plenty of time for 7v7 work.
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Post by backsiderush on Feb 18, 2009 23:42:25 GMT -6
from past experience. we moved all of our weights outside and everyday we covered and uncovered the weights with tarps and chained and locked all the free weights. sounds like alot but we got to lift our kids, they also felt like they were out working everyone because no matter what the weather they were lifting
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Post by CVBears on Feb 19, 2009 1:17:57 GMT -6
In addition to what you are doing already, you might want to contact the HC at Bellarmine Prep in San Jose, CA. They have a very primitive training regimen yet HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL. He might be able to give you some great ideas.
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Post by tribe30 on Feb 19, 2009 6:46:11 GMT -6
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Post by spartancoach on Feb 19, 2009 7:04:34 GMT -6
Move a couple of power racks into the parking lot. Chain them up and tarp them off.
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Post by highball007 on Feb 19, 2009 8:45:14 GMT -6
I would take a bunch of plates (25,35,45) and store them in your football EQ Shed, also use a lot of med balls, barbells for overhead squats, A lot of BW squats and plyo's, stadium stairs. Tire flips, tire pulls, farmers walk, tons of plyos' to make up for the cleans and squats.
The biggest thing is don't let the kids see that not being in the weight room affects you and it will not affect them.
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Post by knighter on Feb 19, 2009 13:54:34 GMT -6
Aplington-Parkersburg had a tornado roll through town at graduation time last spring. A local farmer who had not lost his farm in the F-5 bought some plywood and converted his barn into a weight room facility for the kids. Head Coach and his staff, as well as players went through the debris that had been there strength facility and found all the equipment they could and moved it by pick up truck load to the barn. They will use this until the new school is completed sometime before school starts next year. The entire school building was destroyed. Don't tell me it can't be done, you can easily arrange to move your weightroom for the summer. I know it is a pain in the a$$ and might take some pre-planning and volunteer help, but it is do-able.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 19:10:05 GMT -6
Plyos, Body weight exercises, and oh yeah, lots of steroids......Just kidding C'mon now, it's not baseball we're talking about. ;D yeah but then that would be steroids, steroids, outrageous salaries, and oh yeah...steriods
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