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Post by gschwender on Jan 23, 2009 5:57:58 GMT -6
i do not think mine is that bad.....YET
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Post by touchdownmaker on Jan 23, 2009 8:32:20 GMT -6
I had a kid come to me in the last week. Said his pop was interested in coaching with us. He had the opportunity to join staff last year when we were really hurting for both players and coaches. The player did not play for us either - now, I am willing to talk to anyone who wants to help but THIS IS FUNNY- the kid said to me " I think my dad can handle being an assistant but he will probably want to add a few things to your system"
ok, can we all just laugh about this and say NOOOOOOOOOOOO together?!
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Post by bigm0073 on Jan 23, 2009 8:47:57 GMT -6
Tell that F-Face to get the hell out of here..... You probably FARTED out more football then that idiot parent will EVER know.
I have really been thinking about doing a Football 101 night... Just basic education for the parents. Teach them about reading coverages, what is a cover II beater or cover III beater.... How and why do defenses and offfenses do what they do. I really think I am going to do this in the spring and really try and educate the parents as much as possible.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Jan 23, 2009 10:31:36 GMT -6
coachinghopeful, that is an awesome story, thanks for sharing it.
It's amazing to me that people only see their own little world. It's also amazing to me that these two "very successful by every standard" people got it so amazingly wrong.
Also equally amazing is that these type of pushy high school people don't realize that the world doesn't stop when their little phenom graduates. They honestly think that once their little pet graduates there will be no one that will come out and tell tales on them.
You are their judgment.
I tell families all the time, "it is the children who tell the tales, it is the children who sing the songs. Be kind to them because they are going to be telling stories about you when you are dead."
These jerks didn't realize that you would be telling stories on them for the rest of your life. That whenever you talk to "know-it-all" parents, you have this couple in mind. And that the REST OF YOUR LIFE, you will remember their actions, tell it, and that there is nothing that they can do about it.
Amazing isn't it? OJW
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Post by coachcb on Jan 23, 2009 10:52:12 GMT -6
The biggest issue that I have seen is coaches not explaining, in detail, what the parents role will be within the program (supporters/spectators). They either try to have an "open door" policy with the parents in an effort to placate them or they just ignore the parents until it boils over and they become rude.
If you set your policy with the parents and set your boundaries, then these situations become much more managable. There maybe some friction with the administration, initially, especially if they are used to caving in with mom and dad. But, after the first year, they'll come around, simply because you really are making their lives easier. If you set and establish your chain of command, leave the AD as the last tier, and stick to it, then you really minimize the problems that they have to deal with.
Now, this is assuming that you are doing the right things by the kids and acting professionally. If you fall off that wagon, then the boss has to step in. But, if you're just dealing with the usual "my Johnny should be getting the ball 30 times a game" complaints, then your AD will appreciate the heirarchy.
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Post by gschwender on Jan 23, 2009 12:03:55 GMT -6
Tell that F-Face to get the hell out of here..... You probably FARTED out more football then that idiot parent will EVER know. I have really been thinking about doing a Football 101 night... Just basic education for the parents. Teach them about reading coverages, what is a cover II beater or cover III beater.... How and why do defenses and offfenses do what they do. I really think I am going to do this in the spring and really try and educate the parents as much as possible. only problem with that is that once they have a little knowledge--and i mean just a little-- they will second guess twice as much. Like my old man used to say "You cannot teach anyone who already thinks they know everything"
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Post by coachgeorge51 on Jan 23, 2009 13:27:50 GMT -6
I think this is a global problem that faces education in general. Really, it is societal. Few parents want to accept that their son should receive criticism of any kind. Too many kids view themselves on the same level as adults. I had several fathers call their son "dude" during my post-season meetings. How do you deal with that? ? We all need to stick to what we know is right and do great things for kids. If the kids are committed, then you are doing it right, even if the parents are upset. God knows, I dealt with parental issues in my first year. However, you do "have to win" eventually and definitely by your fourth year. Otherwise, you will be ousted, especially if you are an aggressive coach with demands a lot. At some point, the demands have to equate to wins or they will have something to argue about.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 23, 2009 14:27:15 GMT -6
I always used to thing that kids' and parents' sense of entitlement in athletics was something that has always been around.
Then, a college professor who had been teaching at the university level for 30 years told me something shocking. He said that within the last 10 years, he had actually been getting phone calls from parents of COLLEGE STUDENTS. These people were actually complaining about COLLEGE CLASS REQUIREMENTS. He said that one of them told her son not to sign the student/professor course contract that attached to the back of the syllabus. She said that he was expecting too much from her son; a twenty year old..
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Post by coachcb on Jan 23, 2009 20:29:29 GMT -6
And, unfortunately, there are some areas where you just aren't going to win the parents over. For example, the high school I used to coach at was terrible in this regard; even when the program was winning. They had a HC in football that took them to the state title game his first year in the program; the year before they hadn't won a single game. His teams missed the playoffs two seasons, out of the 13 that he was there. He made it to the state title game one more time and was a regular in the semifinals. The parents in that town hated him and spent a lot of time trying to run him out. He finally got fed up and retired from coaching and the program hasn't won more than 4 games since he left. The former head basketball coach is considered one of the best to ever go through the state. In the 19 years he was there, they missed the playoffs ONCE, played for the state title a dozen times and won the whole thing ten times. The parents didn't like him either and they ran him out of coaching. A group of them got together, put together a petition, and the administration gave him one more year and then told him to resign or be fired. Sorry, correction, he won the state title 5 times, not 10. But he did playe for the state title a dozen times.
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