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Post by bigdog2003 on Jan 14, 2009 10:05:42 GMT -6
I was wondering if anyone knows of any way other than going through a teacher education college program to become certified. The reason I ask is that I am currently going to school to become a PE teacher with certification from K-12 and have a 3.59 GPA. It is really getting to be expensive for me to attend school, because I am paying for everything out of pocket and with tuition, books, lab fees, test to become a teacher I am spending a lot of money out of pocket.
Also, do are any of you paid coaches but don't teach, and if so, what type of job allows you the time to do both?
I have an assiociates degree in business management, that I got taking night classes while I decided if teaching is what I really wanted to do. Is it possible to become certified with an associates degree through some type of program?
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Post by robinhood on Jan 14, 2009 10:27:33 GMT -6
I can't speak for all states, but I can't imagine getting a teaching certificate without at least a Bachelor's degree. In Indiana it is possible to get the license by already having a non-teaching degree, taking a few education classes, and student teaching.
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Post by phantom on Jan 14, 2009 10:27:36 GMT -6
Many states have programs to expedite teacher certification but I believe that most if not all are for college grads who already hold degrees in other subject areas. I don't know of a way for someone with just an associates to get certified nor do I think that there should be.
If you're serious about coaching then getting teacher certified is your best bet. If it's hard, well, who said it was supposed to be easy? What would say to a player who said that he was thinking of quitting because it was hard?
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Post by nexthc on Jan 14, 2009 10:34:27 GMT -6
What I did was just graduate with my undergrad in History... (was closer to the History Degree then getting my degree in history and in education), ... then I went and got my Masters in Education (General and Special Education)
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Post by fatkicker on Jan 14, 2009 10:38:53 GMT -6
you probably can get a job as a teacher's assistant.......make about 800 bucks a month.....
it wouldn't get you any closer to teaching credentials.....
you can't be serious about getting certified without a bachelors........i'm sure it's not possible....
side note....why do you have to pay for it all now? you can apply for grants and scholarships.....many schools are giving away money to become teachers........
and if all else fails, you can just get a loan.....pay it back after you graduate.....
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Post by bigdog2003 on Jan 14, 2009 12:01:48 GMT -6
The college I go to is over 28,000 a year. I have scholarships, but it isn't nearly enough money for the tuition. The reason I go to the school is because, 1- I don't have to pay room and board because it is in town. 2- It has a great teacher education program that is highly reccomended.
I enjoy college, I guess I am just a little stressed out about the whole thing. I work every chance I get to pay for school, but with the economy the way it is, my job was all but down away with. I have some loans, but I am going to try and find others, SC Student Loans isn't doing personal loans right now.
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Post by k on Jan 14, 2009 12:30:56 GMT -6
The college I go to is over 28,000 a year. Ouch. |
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Post by coachcb on Jan 14, 2009 16:57:47 GMT -6
The college I go to is over 28,000 a year. It'd be a whole lot cheaper for you to go to a reasonably priced school and live on your own. Back to the original question; if you really want to coach high school football, becoming a teacher is the best route. The only way you are going to be able to get the initial teaching license from the state is by being reccommended by a university. You won't be reccommended by the university unless you have a degree. |
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Post by bigdog2003 on Jan 14, 2009 17:16:22 GMT -6
The college I go to is over 28,000 a year. It'd be a whole lot cheaper for you to go to a reasonably priced school and live on your own. Back to the original question; if you really want to coach high school football, becoming a teacher is the best route. The only way you are going to be able to get the initial teaching license from the state is by being reccommended by a university. You won't be reccommended by the university unless you have a degree. I looked at other schools, but other than South Carolina or Clemson there aren't any that are much cheaper and the waiting list at those public schools for education was long. I looked at another private school but it was even more and another school didn't offer anything other than elementary ed. Hopefully my GPA goes up more because that would be an extra 5,000 a year. |
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Post by bigdog2003 on Jan 14, 2009 17:22:16 GMT -6
I was going to move into a house with some friends, but one decided to drop out to do I don't know what and the other transfered to play football at another school. Does anyone have a site that offers scholarships for teacher ed students?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2009 19:08:49 GMT -6
try looking at the scholarshops offered by the university department, if youre in the edu department ask the financial aid office or sometyhing....theyve got to have a list ot scholarships, and there are some pretty random ones out there.
im pretty sure you need at least a bachelors to teach anywhere, after that it depends on the state probably. im in CA working on my teacher credential right now, finished the bachelors in june and it's 2 semesters of classwork + 1 semester of student teaching, basically a year and a half and done. public schools all the way and tuition is nowhere near 28,000.
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Post by moose18 on Jan 16, 2009 15:03:55 GMT -6
Sort of on topic....how about those of us who have a bachelors degree, but have spent our whole career at the collegiate level, yet never GA'd? Is there a way that I could get certification without spending two years in a masters program?
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Post by bigdog2003 on Jan 16, 2009 16:03:22 GMT -6
A friend of mine didn't do the teacher ed thing in college and is now going through what they call abc in South Carolina. Takes classes and stuff after teaching all day. He has a science degree and they really needed science teachers here.
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Post by kycoachwr88 on Jan 18, 2009 10:40:39 GMT -6
In Kentucky you can get an emergency teaching cert. with a college degree, but you have to actively pursue your masters and teaching cert while you are employed. Of course all this depends on if an opening with no qualified candidates seeking is available, or if you know someone to get you in the door.
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Post by cjkal30 on Jan 18, 2009 10:58:15 GMT -6
In NJ you can apply for the alternate route program. You pass the Praxis test in the subject area you qualify for based on your BA. Then you get a provisional cert. which allows you to look for a job and teach for one yr. During that yr you must take a class that is once a week for like 6 or 7 monthes. At the completion of the yr of teaching and classes you will get your perm. cert. The yr is you teaching by yourself so you are getting paid, its not student teaching. SOme of the schools you attend for the classes are affiliated with colleges and you can get MA credits for them also. Its a very good program.
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Post by lex42 on Jan 18, 2009 21:52:02 GMT -6
If you're serious about coaching then getting teacher certified is your best bet. If it's hard, well, who said it was supposed to be easy? What would say to a player who said that he was thinking of quitting because it was hard?[/quote]
It sounds like it is a financial issue, not a question of want to. You dont know the guy so calm down.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Jan 19, 2009 9:06:28 GMT -6
If you're serious about coaching then getting teacher certified is your best bet. If it's hard, well, who said it was supposed to be easy? What would say to a player who said that he was thinking of quitting because it was hard? [/quote][/b] That is what it is, I have a 3.59 GPA, so it isn't that I can't do the classwork its that work has been slow. I work construction whenever possible to help pay for school, and well I think we all know how the construction industry is going these days. Here in SC, we have the second highest unemployment rate in the country, and people don't hire full time college students to start with. I talked to some of my professors, and may have found a scholarship for next year. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 19, 2009 9:11:45 GMT -6
bigdog--that is GREAT news about the scholly. Something else to consider : TUTORING. Teachers often charge 20-25 bucks an hour to tutor after school. If you could undercut that price (because you aren't a "certified teacher...as if that means much in a one on one situation") you might be able to make another 50 or 60 a week.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Jan 19, 2009 9:17:52 GMT -6
I will look into that. I know that sometimes the local school district hires students to do tutoring for the after school programs.
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Post by Bill Vasko on Jan 19, 2009 18:38:03 GMT -6
Sort of on topic....how about those of us who have a bachelors degree, but have spent our whole career at the collegiate level, yet never GA'd? Is there a way that I could get certification without spending two years in a masters program? There are a lot of schools who offer one year postgrad programs to get your certification if you have a bachelor's in an area that can be certified....... |
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