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Post by wingt74 on Jan 8, 2009 20:41:38 GMT -6
Officiating, just horrible.
Three missed illegal motion penalties...where one WR is still moving to get set while another goes in motion.
And the horsecollar tackle on that Florida WR that had his knee tore up.
Then early on the late hit by the LG on OK was VERY questionable as was the unsportsmanlike penalty on the Florida WR.
Otherwise, two great teams...unsure why OK doesn't kick the FG on 4th and goal...
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Post by endersgame on Jan 8, 2009 20:49:49 GMT -6
They did have the momentum and were moving very well. If I was an offensive coordinator I would go for it, too. Besides, if you don't make it (which in this case happened to OU) Florida is pinned on the 1-yard line, which normally produces run calls by most teams. Plus, Tebow has thrown two picks already and is being heavily pressured. Doubtful they'd be looking to throw in that situation.
IMO as always.
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Post by coachtut on Jan 8, 2009 21:12:24 GMT -6
Especially the way the oline has dominated them inside I would've gone for it too. Maybe that's why I'm on here instead of coaching in the game though. lol
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 8, 2009 22:03:22 GMT -6
UF hasn't gotten off a block all game, in my eyes. OU's OL are either getting their Ph. D in Holding or UF has some work to do.
UF hasn't tackled particularly well, either.
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Post by jw8 on Jan 8, 2009 22:27:54 GMT -6
OK has to be over the Big 12 limit on lining up in the I and running stretch on first and 2nd down. I thought it was a rule that they had to be a spread team and be creative. Oklahoma's WR are not helping them out much in the game.
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 8, 2009 22:49:09 GMT -6
Officiating, just horrible. Three missed illegal motion penalties...where one WR is still moving to get set while another goes in motion. And the horsecollar tackle on that Florida WR that had his knee tore up. Then early on the late hit by the LG on OK was VERY questionable as was the unsportsmanlike penalty on the Florida WR. Otherwise, two great teams...unsure why OK doesn't kick the FG on 4th and goal... Is it just me or was there like 5 phantom false start calls? Congrats Florida and fans what a great 2008 football season and I hope we can see some new teams in the NC next year.
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Post by mariner42 on Jan 8, 2009 22:56:44 GMT -6
Provided Tebow stays (Which everything leads me to believe he will), that team is going to be even better next year. I believe UF doesn't have a single senior on their defensive 2-deep and their offense will be STACKED at the skill positions, only losing 2 OL and 1 WR. Scary good.
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Post by bighit65 on Jan 8, 2009 22:59:43 GMT -6
We are all better for having watched the great Tim Tebow tonight. Did anyone else want to fire the announcers?
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Post by cmow5 on Jan 8, 2009 23:03:53 GMT -6
Yeah who are these guys this is the BIG ONE and this is all they could get. Did they just draw names outta of hat.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Jan 8, 2009 23:10:49 GMT -6
Congrats to the Gators! They just wanted it more. I just can't wait for all the Oklahomans calling for Stoops head on a platter and his resignation cause we all know how horrible a coach he is ... (I know he has lost his last several bowl games but very successful overall)
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Post by coachtut on Jan 8, 2009 23:11:20 GMT -6
If they line up and do it all over again I would bet that OU would actually win this game. I think Stoops is kicking himself for not lining up in the I and stuffing it down Floridas throat.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 8, 2009 23:50:10 GMT -6
If they line up and do it all over again I would bet that OU would actually win this game. I think Stoops is kicking himself for not lining up in the I and stuffing it down Floridas throat. If the played again, I would take that bet.
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Post by hustleandheart on Jan 9, 2009 2:49:29 GMT -6
Provided Tebow stays (Which everything leads me to believe he will), that team is going to be even better next year. I believe UF doesn't have a single senior on their defensive 2-deep and their offense will be STACKED at the skill positions, only losing 2 OL and 1 WR. Scary good. Unreal isn't it?
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Post by goldenbear76 on Jan 9, 2009 3:18:38 GMT -6
One announcer said ...
"if you spend 15 minutes with Tebow, you'll become a better person" lol...
sorry that did not belong here..
still not deleting it ;p
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Post by spreadattack on Jan 9, 2009 6:07:58 GMT -6
One announcer said ... "if you spend 15 minutes with Tebow, you'll become a better person" lol... sorry that did not belong here.. still not deleting it ;p I dont want to harp on it either, and I'm absolutely certain that Tebow's an amazing kid, but the way the announcer was describing it, it was like he had gone in and Tebow had laid hands on him and asked him to repent his sins or something. Anyway, I'm going to have some thoughts on my site in a bit. But, briefly, (a) I completely agree that going for it on 4th and 1 was the right call (play-call is another matter), (b) both of Bradford's INTs were in his receivers' hands before they were in Florida's, (c) I'd have to see it again, but I thought Tebow's veer and option reads were off in the first half -- seemed like OU was taking away the RB on both the veer and speed option plays and Tebow kept giving/pitching, but in the second half he kept it more and then when he did give it Harvin busted crazy, and (d) they ran a ton of that shovel triple play. Through much of the game seemed like OU lacked offensive identity. The announcers got all into whether they were in fast or slow no-huddle, but I do think there is something to be said that when in their look-to-the-sidelines no-huddle they looked kinda timid. I mean, what keys were they learning from Florida anyway? I thought Florida was doing a good job disguising, in which case I thought they would have benefited from just getting up and going, much like they had this year.
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Post by airraider on Jan 9, 2009 6:16:35 GMT -6
Yeah who are these guys this is the BIG ONE and this is all they could get. Did they just draw names outta of hat. On one hand they were calling the Jet a reverse.. and then talking about run fits.. there are some coaches who do not know what run fits are.. but yet they have no knowledge of the Jet sweep.
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Post by coachdubyah on Jan 9, 2009 6:40:22 GMT -6
I like the play by play guy, but I think they should have gotten the old Sunday Night Football guys, Paul McGuire, Joe Theisman, and I cant remember the other guy's name. I miss that group.
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Post by veerraid on Jan 9, 2009 6:41:47 GMT -6
Being a Gator fan for many years, going back to the days of Galen Hall, I will be the first to admit that Oklahoma outplayed Florida in the 1st half. Also, I agree with spreadattack that Tebow's Veer/Midline reads were not good in the first half. I am also grateful that Oklahoma kept going back to the spread and not the I. Stretch and IZ, with that huge Oline, were giving the Gator D fits all night.
To me, this game came down to two defenses that spent a month hearing that no one could stop either offense. While not pretty, I thought that the game was hard fought and intense, with both teams playing hard. In these days of high scoring machines devastating defenses, it was nice to see a good old-fashioned slug-fest.
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Post by jangalang on Jan 9, 2009 7:00:21 GMT -6
SEC defense > Big 12 offense HS defense = Big 12 defense
But, the media and most fans are going to remember this year as the Big 12 having the 3 greatest qb's to ever stop on a football field (minus Tebow, of course lol). I'm not referring to OU's defense last night, which was acceptable. But rather, I'm talking about the inflated numbers Harrell, McCoy, and Bradford put up this year. Give them an SEC schedule and I just don't see it happening.
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Post by davecisar on Jan 9, 2009 7:07:31 GMT -6
Yeah who are these guys this is the BIG ONE and this is all they could get. Did they just draw names outta of hat. On one hand they were calling the Jet a reverse.. and then talking about run fits.. there are some coaches who do not know what run fits are.. but yet they have no knowledge of the Jet sweep. No one in the history of announcing knows what a JEt Sweep is,to them it's always a reverse or "end around" And in one case they called a 3rd and 1 4th and 1, golly is that job really so hard?
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Post by spreadattack on Jan 9, 2009 7:09:52 GMT -6
On one hand they were calling the Jet a reverse.. and then talking about run fits.. there are some coaches who do not know what run fits are.. but yet they have no knowledge of the Jet sweep. No one in the history of announcing knows what a JEt Sweep is,to them it's always a reverse or "end around" And in one case they called a 3rd and 1 4th and 1, golly is that job really so hard? That mistake was pretty annoying. When OU got stopped on 3rd and 1 I left the room to get a beer. Heard some people I had over's voices a few seconds later, and realized I'd missed 4th and 1.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Jan 9, 2009 7:43:59 GMT -6
The announcers were awful. Tons of mistakes...
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Post by wingt74 on Jan 9, 2009 7:44:30 GMT -6
We are all better for having watched the great Tim Tebow tonight. Did anyone else want to fire the announcers? Yes...Spend 5 minutes with Tebow and you'll loose weight, get a better job, find a hot girlfriend, and win a million dollars. It was way over the top
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Post by tango on Jan 9, 2009 8:21:29 GMT -6
#21 Wright had a lot to do with the outcome. He was killing people and #11 Riley Cooper on the shovel option that Tebow pitch outside blocked the CB for ever.
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Post by jw8 on Jan 9, 2009 8:28:59 GMT -6
I'm not referring to OU's defense last night, which was acceptable. But rather, I'm talking about the inflated numbers Harrell, McCoy, and Bradford put up this year. Give them an SEC schedule and I just don't see it happening.[/quote]
OU played pretty good defense most of the night. Not many are talking about the shooting themselves in foot and missed opportunities to score. It was a game where Florida made a few more plays and put up points in key situations. OU needed to capitalize on their first half play and did not. Florida got better play from their skill players in the game I thought. OU WR's dropped balls and a few had the ball taken from them.
If you put those QB's in the SEC where would they rank? Which QBs in the SEC would be better? I am sure their numbers would be different in the SEC. It is a different style and approach to offense. Perspective by box scores is a difficult thing. If the Big 12 is so bad on Defense but OU held the best team in the nation to 24 points. Florida held OU to 14 points...proved that the SEC has great defense....Then Alabama (Former #1 team and 2nd best SEC team) gets lit up by Utah. Not playing great defense. It is hard to make out anything concrete from these games. We can all pick out games and stats that we want to make our argument. But someone can always come back with some evidence that goes in the direct opposite.
Truth be told I am a Kansas guy myself and am frustrated that Reesing always gets left out of the Big 12 talk....lol He has won more BCS games then any OU QB lately....
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Post by morris on Jan 9, 2009 8:29:30 GMT -6
One thing that kept bugging me was how all the shows and announcers ketp talking about how questionable OK defense was. I think they kept talking about where they ranked, yardage and the such. Well when your offense runs 80+ plays a game and your scoring fast then yeah your defensive stats are going to be skewed. They said the national average for plays per game was like 60. In th eend it makes it where your defense has been on the field about 2-3 games more as far as plays per game then the national average. Add that to the fact that so many of the teams in the Big 12 run no huddle at a brisk pace and it skews things even more.
I have to wonder also why not just shove the ball down their throats. You have better match ups. I also agree with who ever said just get up and go and stop with the check with me stuff. Sometimes we make it more complex then what it is.
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Post by td4tc on Jan 9, 2009 8:32:47 GMT -6
love Tebow and i'm a better person for studying his play on planetgator.com. lol. didn't think he read the option very well esp in first half.Did anyone else think they were "reading the jet"?looked a little slower than usual like he was trying to read it but there so many commercials and so few replays i couldn't tell.
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Post by coachbub on Jan 9, 2009 8:51:02 GMT -6
I DIDNT LIKE THE CALLS OU MADE ON 3RD & 4TH DOWN ESPECAILLY DOWN BY GOALINE. YOU HAVE THE BEST QB IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL & NEVER PUT BALL IN HANDS ON 3RD OR 4TH DOWN. THINK ABOUT IT....
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Post by newb on Jan 9, 2009 8:52:34 GMT -6
I think that OK's tempo really hurt them in this game. Their defense was playing great, at first, but in the end they were just on the field too much. I think if OK would have slowed down the tempo, ran the ball more, and controlled the clock, they would've come out on top. You can't let an option team have that many offensive possessions because sooner or later they're gonna break a few, and that was the game. Florida breaks a few plays, gains all the momentum, and the game's over.
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Post by knight9299 on Jan 9, 2009 10:29:16 GMT -6
but I do think there is something to be said that when in their look-to-the-sidelines no-huddle they looked kinda timid. I mean, what keys were they learning from Florida anyway? I thought Florida was doing a good job disguising, in which case I thought they would have benefited from just getting up and going, much like they had this year. I am SOOOO sick of the look-to-the-sidelines crap, let the D set, look to the side lines again, wait, look again, okay now run the play. If you can't coach your ALL world QB to read a defense and get your offense into the right call you might want to rethink some things. I'll go even farther. If your offense can only be successful after you see how the defense lines up you might want to rethink some things.
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