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Post by coachthespread on Nov 19, 2008 10:12:33 GMT -6
What are some of the ways you guys break down film in your staff meetings to develop a game plan? My staff and I have done it the same way and looking for some new ideas. I just wanted to see what some of you guys are doing! Thanks!
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Post by lochness on Nov 19, 2008 13:12:19 GMT -6
There are 1,000,000 ways to over-complicate stuff.
I've seen film breakdown processes where it looks like coaches are designing a process to build a neutron bomb.
Keep it simple. What are their favorite plays? What are the formations we will see those favorite plays from? What do they like to do to the field and to the boundary? Is it formation specific? What do they do in short yardage? What do they do on 3rd and 6+?
Anything else is WAAAAAAYYYY over-analyzing it for a HS defense, in my humble opinion.
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Post by coachthespread on Nov 19, 2008 13:13:57 GMT -6
I agree. I am talking about offensive side of the ball. Our way has been very successful. I just want to see how some others do it.
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Post by lochness on Nov 19, 2008 13:20:59 GMT -6
You mean OFFENSIVELY how do you break down film of their defense?
That's even easier in my opinion (I've been an OC for 13 of my 15 years coaching).
What are their base alignments? Who has force? Who has contain? Do they switch it up? What are their base 1 or 2 coverages? Do they make any automatic checks vs. certain formations or motions? Are their LB's keying OL or RB flow? Do they have specific strong side and weakside personnel? Specific field and boundary personnel? 2 favorite blitzes or stunts, and when do they run them? What do they do on 3rd and long? 3rd and short? Who do we want to exploit in a matchup?
We really just have a checklist that we go through, and we try to answer all of those questions by watching the film.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 19, 2008 14:29:41 GMT -6
You mean OFFENSIVELY how do you break down film of their defense? That's even easier in my opinion (I've been an OC for 13 of my 15 years coaching). What are their base alignments? Who has force? Who has contain? Do they switch it up? What are their base 1 or 2 coverages? Do they make any automatic checks vs. certain formations or motions? Are their LB's keying OL or RB flow? Do they have specific strong side and weakside personnel? Specific field and boundary personnel? 2 favorite blitzes or stunts, and when do they run them? What do they do on 3rd and long? 3rd and short? Who do we want to exploit in a matchup? We really just have a checklist that we go through, and we try to answer all of those questions by watching the film. Do you do a down and distance breakdown like most defensive coaches?? Are there any OC's that do a down and distance? I have worked for two different OC's that have not done D&D. The first HC was a triple option guy so we never got what we saw on film anyway
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Post by lochness on Nov 19, 2008 19:32:52 GMT -6
Nope. No reason to in my opinion. We look at short yardage and we look at third down stuff. Most HS defenses are pretty much doing one of two things:
1. Line up and blitz every which way almost every down, with no apparent rhyme or reason. 2. Line up in a base package and pretty much just sit there and play it REALLY WELL
We don't see a lot of defensive tendancies according to down and distance like 2nd and medium and stuff like that. OK, I guess we look at a couple of other things like what do they do after we hit a big play (some DC's get frustrated and blitz 50 guys and stunt their whole DL trying to get back at you for hitting a big play on them...we like to catch someone like that)
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Post by coachthespread on Nov 19, 2008 19:46:55 GMT -6
Yes that is about how we do it. I like to do down and distance. A few coaches this year were very predictable when they were going to blitz. We hit a team on a jail break screen this year because we knew they were going to blitz based on our film study. It was a huge 3rd down in a huge game. Cool, I just like to see how other coaches do things.
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 19, 2008 20:55:37 GMT -6
- defense by formation ... fronts
- blitz by formation ... who is blitzing
- coverage by formation ... zone/man; mofo/mofc; who from front is in coverage
- coverage by down/distance ... zone/man; mofo/mofc
- blitz by down/distance ... overall %; % inside pressure vs % outside vs no pressure
- defense when offense is coming out (minus 20) ... overall scheme; does it change based on how they normally defend the formation
- defense inside the 20 ... overall scheme; does it change how they normally defend the formation or % they normally blitz
- goalline defense (inside 5) ... front; coverage; blitz %; inside vs outside pressure; who has the back out
- motion adjustments ... coverage adjustments; front adjustments
- shift adjustments ... coverage adjustments; coverage adjustments; do people flip sides on the shift or slide
- blitz based on field/boundary ... where is it coming from
- adjustment to trips and/or twins into the boundary ... is coverage or front affected or played differently than normal
- who has contain on play away ... backside end or lb on such plays as toss, zone, fly, etc.
- how to DE's play things such as GT, counter, etc.
- how fast to LB's play ... do they fill hard, get one read and hit it on run plays, fly out to zone on pass key, etc.
- who is their best DL vs run; best pass rusher; weakest
- who is their best cover guy; who is their weakest
- who is their best LB on runs away, runs to; who is worst
- who can we get isolated on our best receiver; how (formation, motions,shift, down-distance, etc.)
- who must we set the protection to ... who must we assure we get an potential extra body for
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 20, 2008 13:13:04 GMT -6
Coach Huey: Like spreadattack says (based on Chow) we really never know what we are facing (defensively) until we see it. so I like the way you just call it MOFO, MOFC when doung your tendancies. Do you do film cuts?? if so do you show the kids or just for yourself
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Post by spartancoach on Nov 20, 2008 15:29:30 GMT -6
Besides what others have said, I want to know what puts the DTs in a particular tech (1 vs. 3). Do they put the 3 tech to the TE, or to field. Prefer B gap plays to a 1 and A gap plays to a 3 (generally).
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