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Post by spartancoach on Nov 11, 2008 7:08:06 GMT -6
We are playing a very athletic and talented team in the first round of the playoffs on Sat. We are heavy underdogs. We do not match up well personnel-wise. We need to come up with something.
We are an I team (pro, twins, double tight w/flanker). Overachieving o-line, decent FB, very good TB, not much of a passing game, although 3 step stuff and play action is not bad. Iso, power, stretch, counter, FB dive, play action, screens, 3 step.
Opponent plays a 30 stack, rovers either at LB depth or on LOS about 2 yds outside end man. To twins rover walks out. Cover down on receivers and their DBs are better athletes than our WRs. Send at least 2 stacked backers every play, usually the 2 outside stacks, but sometimes Mike.
Any general ideas on attacking a blitzing 30 stack D?
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Post by coachorr on Nov 11, 2008 7:32:56 GMT -6
One back tight slot: Toss sweep, GUT, (Counter step in the backfield, WS Guard block out on down lineman, WS Tackle wrap around on the mike, Slot jab step lead on the Will).
Double tight One back: IZ and OZ + Dive.
Double Tight I: Lead, Dive Option
Double Tight Power I: Double Lead
2.5 to 3 Yard spilts out of the tight ends.
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Post by rideanddecide on Nov 11, 2008 7:38:20 GMT -6
Twins-Power G to the weakside. Tackle/Guard work back to Mike/Nose with Center, FB kicks out/logs end, BSG pulls and wraps to stacked backer. BST/TE scoop to seal backside leakage.
We had success with this vs. the 30 stack when we ran I and we weren't very good. They're just outmanned.
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Post by touchdowng on Nov 11, 2008 10:03:30 GMT -6
If you plan to change your offense based on what the defense does over a one week period - I'd say start planning your end of the season banquet.
Coach - Take the best things you do and make very minor adjusts to this front. If their Jimmy's and better than your Joe's then you'd better emphasize technique & execution and not different plays.
This is your best chance.
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Post by spartancoach on Nov 11, 2008 10:19:13 GMT -6
Thanks coaches. Certainly not planning on changing the offense (our kids do not have the mental capacity for drastic changes anyway). What we are thinking of is running our regular stuff, particularly iso and power out of unbalanced double tight (Y-G-C-G-T-T-Y) and run power at unbalanced or Iso away depending on how (and if) they adjust the N and Mike to unbalanced. Thoughts?
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Post by knight9299 on Nov 11, 2008 10:22:35 GMT -6
We are playing a very athletic and talented team in the first round of the playoffs on Sat. We are heavy underdogs. We do not match up well personnel-wise. We need to come up with something. We are an I team (pro, twins, double tight w/flanker). Overachieving o-line, decent FB, very good TB, not much of a passing game, although 3 step stuff and play action is not bad. Iso, power, stretch, counter, FB dive, play action, screens, 3 step. Opponent plays a 30 stack, rovers either at LB depth or on LOS about 2 yds outside end man. To twins rover walks out. Cover down on receivers and their DBs are better athletes than our WRs. Send at least 2 stacked backers every play, usually the 2 outside stacks, but sometimes Mike. Any general ideas on attacking a blitzing 30 stack D? 1. What is their reaction to an unbalanced line? 2. What is their reaction to Y trips out of the I? The teams I have seen really move the ball on the stack either were just better or put more guys at the point of attack than the stack had. That being said, it's a play off game, throw the sink at them with formations. Some of my favorites. ..............Y..G..C..G..T..T...............X ......................Q..................Z ................................................... .......................F.................... .......................T........ ...X............Y..T..G..C..G..T ........Z...................Q....... ............................................... .............................F................... .............................T ...................T..G..C..G..T..Y..X............ ...........................Q.................Z...... ......................................F......... ...........................T. |
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Post by coachorr on Nov 11, 2008 11:08:38 GMT -6
I am not sure anyone asked him to change his offense.
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Post by fatkicker on Nov 11, 2008 12:42:27 GMT -6
any double tight stuff would be good.....will cause them to be the most predictable....
the trick is going to be to scout their blitzes and slants.......or can you call plays taking into conisderation your tendancies throughout the year.......
if you like off tackle right on first down......you know you are going to get slanted strong.....run toss away instead.......or something like that......
you can guarantee that their front 8 won't stay still very long......
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Post by realdawg on Nov 11, 2008 13:20:19 GMT -6
Iso to the twins side, toss sweep to the twins side (crack w. slot and FB kick out SS). FB trap. Power to TE side. What do the do to TE with a wing?
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Post by goldenbear76 on Nov 11, 2008 14:31:18 GMT -6
We like to ISO the heck out of 3-3-5 teams. We will Double the nose..Fullback will lead to Mike backer and we will slip block the DT/SAM stack with the PST/TE(this can change due to the depth of the SAM)..ignore the spur/dogs. Once we have that working we'll start running some Counters/trap/Outside Veer/Power and putting the spur/dogs in a bind. Throw some playaction passing if the Spurs/Dogs start to overcommit to the run. Like realdawg said too..you can put them in a bind by going twins to one side every once in awhile.
One note: when we iso to the TE side..Mike is the isolated backer for the fullback. When we iso weakside..Will becomes the isolated backer for fullback.
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Post by calicoachh on Nov 11, 2008 15:12:12 GMT -6
run the power and the veer
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Post by dacoachmo on Nov 11, 2008 17:48:19 GMT -6
One back tight slot: Toss sweep, GUT, (Counter step in the backfield, WS Guard block out on down lineman, WS Tackle wrap around on the mike, Slot jab step lead on the Will). Double tight One back: IZ and OZ + Dive. Double Tight I: Lead, Dive Option Double Tight Power I: Double Lead 2.5 to 3 Yard spilts out of the tight ends. DITTO double tight gives 30 stack fits also some TREY and TRIPS could hurt them!!! |
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Post by spartancoach on Nov 15, 2008 8:18:22 GMT -6
Game is at 1 pm eastern time today. Supposed to be real bad weather, which should help us. Sticking with what we do, Power, Counter, Iso, Stretch, but out of double tights and tackle over to get them out of the blitzing stack they have done all year.
Wish us luck.
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Post by coachorr on Nov 15, 2008 8:50:24 GMT -6
Let us know what happens. I am interested.
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Post by spartancoach on Nov 18, 2008 13:53:14 GMT -6
We certainly gave them a game. We were up 23-14 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Then their stud QB took over the game in the 4th quarter. Lost 27-23. The tackle-over look took them out of the 30 stack and into an overshifted 5-2. We were able to move the ball somewhat against a much bigger, stronger, faster and better team. In particular, Power gave them problems. All in all, we did everything we could but, unfortunately the better team won.
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