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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2008 11:53:19 GMT -6
the player caught it as he was sailing out the back of the endzone, tossed it back to his teammate inbounds in the endzone before his feet touched down, and was ruled a touchdown...watch the ref take like 5 seconds to figure out what happened.
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Post by eickst on Nov 5, 2008 12:14:54 GMT -6
Nice!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2008 14:45:11 GMT -6
reminds me of a play karlos dansby made awhile back in a bowl game for auburn
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Post by Coach JR on Nov 5, 2008 14:48:39 GMT -6
jt,
I was thinking of that exact same play by Dansby too! Another interesting fact, Lutzenkirchen is, at least for now, an Auburn committment.
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Post by airraider on Nov 5, 2008 20:33:50 GMT -6
I had that same thing happen in a JV game 5 years ago.. except if was our receiver who caught the ball and threw it forward..
My thing is though.. wouldnt possession have to be established before it can be considered an illegal forward pass? For possession to be established.. he would have to come down with the ball just like any other place on the field?
I dont know.. the officials in our game called illegal forward pass.. but I still think they are wrong.. and I think the part about it being illegal forward pass in the Danzby thing was wrong too..
They said he had possession and then threw an illegal forward pass.. at what point did he gain possession?
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Post by eickst on Nov 5, 2008 21:38:01 GMT -6
I had that same thing happen in a JV game 5 years ago.. accept if was our receiver who caught the ball and threw it forward.. My thing is though.. wouldnt possession have to be established before it can be considered an illegal forward pass? For possession to be established.. he would have to come down with the ball just like any other place on the field? I dont know.. the officials in our game called illegal forward pass.. but I still think they are wrong.. and I think the part about it being illegal forward pass in the Danzby thing was wrong too.. They said he had possession and then threw an illegal forward pass.. at what point did he gain possession? That's what I was thinking when I saw that. The defensive back who initially touched/caught it never really had possession. At that point, since he did not regain possession , it wouldn't be an illegal forward pass but merely a batted ball. Whether or not that is illegal....is a different story I guess.
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Post by tothehouse on Nov 5, 2008 22:14:38 GMT -6
My question on the Dansby one. Did he have possession? The refs say yes....but I don't think so. I thought a player had to come down with a foot on the ground and make a football move...or something like that. I don't think you can count that as possession until the guy who ended up catching it on the field came down with the ball.
The high school one is flat out awesome.
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Post by Yash on Nov 5, 2008 23:03:45 GMT -6
I was thinking the same thing about possession. How is it possession if it would have been incomplete had he come down with it. He never had his feet inbounds. I thought that #54 should get credit for the INT becasue dansby just tipped the ball. I know he caught it but its not a catch unless his feet are in. so i thought, guess i'm wrong
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Post by Coach JR on Nov 6, 2008 9:38:35 GMT -6
My question on the Dansby one. Did he have possession? The refs say yes....but I don't think so. I thought a player had to come down with a foot on the ground and make a football move...or something like that. I don't think you can count that as possession until the guy who ended up catching it on the field came down with the ball. The high school one is flat out awesome. I think you're right on the Dansby catch/non-catch, but the officials A: hadn't seen anything like it before, and B: got tunnel vision on the illegal forward pass without considering actual possession, but rather assumed it. By the rule, as I understand it, the player can only possess the caught ball if he comes down with one foot in bounds...Dansby never touched the ground with the ball in his hands.
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Post by dacoordinator on Nov 6, 2008 10:00:59 GMT -6
both greats plays I have played, seen, and coached alot of football and have never seen any of those plays! oddly enough a relative of mine was actually playing in that peach bowl game and I still dont remember seeing that play
great play and awareness by both players tho
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