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Post by spreadbone on Oct 31, 2008 7:59:58 GMT -6
........what plays you call during a JV game? Our JV had no punter or long snapper (had tryouts at the beginning of the year and the farthest punt=20 yards, farthest longsnap was a 1 hopper 10 yards) and they have been very inconsistent. Last night we are up 20-14 in the 4th on the opponent 45 yd. line and we ran some single wing direct snap stuff and 1 of the kids on 4th down fumbled the handoff and the other team took over on downs. Long story short the d forces a fumble on our 15 yard line we recover and take 2 knees for the win.
I get home and I get an irate call from the AD chewing me up 1 side and down the other for calling that play and how f___ing stupid was I etc. etc. The problem is the AD and I are good friends, so I don't know what his motivation was, so I hung up the phone on him and said basically I won't have what I call out there be questioned. I make roughly 3500 a year in a coaching supplement, most of which goes right back into the program. I'm sorry, I'm not going to have what I call out on the field questioned like that. Is that the wrong attitude to take? I could see if I was Les Miles at LSU making 6 or 7 figures etc. I would easily listen to him then, but in my opinion he was way out of line. I have a meeting with him later today, guess I will find out if I'm fired or not, but I really don't care. I think what he did was wrong and the way I was treated is like no man should be treated. I like the guy, but the job is not worth going throught what I went through on the phone last night.
Any thoughts?
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Post by tentboy on Oct 31, 2008 8:04:49 GMT -6
he was wrong, however do not lose your job over it! He did not react how he should, chances are this will blow over into nothing.
part of your job is how you deal with the "nuts", he is now one of them.
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Post by MaineManiac on Oct 31, 2008 8:45:39 GMT -6
Forward him the article that shows it is actually statistically beneficial not to punt in a HS football game. I believe it was in AFM. Then organize a book club for him and Airraider's principal to discuss it.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Oct 31, 2008 8:58:09 GMT -6
spreadbone,
I'm sure you were not the problem. Most of the time when I have a situation where someone acts completely out of character, there is something else going on.
He could have been pushed over the edge that day, had a fight with his wife, bounced a check and had too much adult beverages to sooth his nerves.
If none of that is true, then he's just neurotic and you can never trust him.
If all else fails call Airraider's principal. OJW
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Post by touchdownmaker on Oct 31, 2008 9:18:10 GMT -6
LOL, what football background does your AD have?
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Post by silkyice on Oct 31, 2008 9:30:05 GMT -6
You got your butt chewed over a JV game that y'all won? Unbelieveable.
Ask him what would have happened if they would have blocked the punt and scooped and scored.
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Post by jangalang on Oct 31, 2008 9:43:38 GMT -6
*shaking my head* JV?!...that's a tough one, brother
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Post by coachcb on Oct 31, 2008 11:12:19 GMT -6
I agree with dcohio on this one; keep those kinds of people at an arm's length.
My first year coaching, the entire staff became very tight with our AD and some of parents of kids we were coaching. They showered us with praises and spoke highly of us in the community; until things started going haywire the next year.
When things started getting tough (went from being an 8-2 team to a 5-5 team.), we were the first ones being tossed underneath the bus. We started getting emails and phone calls from the parents and AD, demanding that we "throw the ball more", "run the 3-5 defense", "blah,blah,blah..."
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Post by bleefb on Oct 31, 2008 11:40:45 GMT -6
Sounds like alcohol might be involved.
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Post by dacoordinator on Nov 2, 2008 12:58:49 GMT -6
He was out of line.. I mean its JV Football, we are all competitors here and want to win everything we do. Its not like you were trying to throw the game just didnt have the personnel to punt. Im sure your AD's intents were good just went about it in the wrong way. Im sure he doesnt know your situation on JV either
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Post by bigdog2003 on Nov 3, 2008 7:24:37 GMT -6
Forward him the article that shows it is actually statistically beneficial not to punt in a HS football game. I believe it was in AFM. Then organize a book club for him and Airraider's principal to discuss it. do you have a link to that article |
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Post by dacoachmo on Nov 3, 2008 7:28:42 GMT -6
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Post by touchdownmaker on Nov 3, 2008 10:21:48 GMT -6
Our AD at another school constantly questioned things like onsides kicks or running wild without passing. SHE should have stuck to soccer.
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Post by fatkicker on Nov 3, 2008 10:30:44 GMT -6
we had a female supt one year send an email to our head coach chewing his butt out for taking a knee to end the game....
we were up big.....opponent got close and we pulled away again.....final was 54 to 36......there was much tension that night, and we were glad to sneak away with a win....
some of the stuff included in her email was......"i expect my teachers to teach bell to bell, and our coaches should do the same thing. every possible play should be played. there is to be no more downing a ball during a game." hahahaha
the header just shook his head and wrote her back.......told her that taking a knee was part of strategy at times, and he could not agree to never taking a knee......
ya gotta love administrators who know everything about everything.....
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Post by phantom on Nov 3, 2008 10:46:54 GMT -6
we had a female supt one year send an email to our head coach chewing his butt out for taking a knee to end the game.... we were up big.....opponent got close and we pulled away again.....final was 54 to 36......there was much tension that night, and we were glad to sneak away with a win.... some of the stuff included in her email was......"i expect my teachers to teach bell to bell, and our coaches should do the same thing. every possible play should be played. there is to be no more downing a ball during a game." hahahaha the header just shook his head and wrote her back.......told her that taking a knee was part of strategy at times, and he could not agree to never taking a knee...... ya gotta love administrators who know everything about everything..... Remember the last line of "The Dirty Dozen" when Charles Bronson said, "Boy, killing generals can get to be a habit with me." |
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Post by rideanddecide on Nov 3, 2008 13:37:58 GMT -6
...... I make roughly 3500 a year in a coaching supplement, most of which goes right back into the program. I'm sorry, I'm not going to have what I call out on the field questioned like that. Is that the wrong attitude to take? I could see if I was Les Miles at LSU making 6 or 7 figures etc. Sorry, gotta laugh at this.... I make $2500 as Head Varsity coach, so your $3500 for a JV coach doesn't really sound that bad. Regardless, the AD overstepped his boundaries, plain and simple. |
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Post by airman on Nov 3, 2008 19:01:30 GMT -6
very unprofessional on his part. He is an administrator for a school district. I would go to his supervisor and request a meeting with the supervisor, the AD and yourself. how he treated you is unacceptable even if you are friends.
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Post by defcoach on Nov 3, 2008 19:43:25 GMT -6
I would never listen to any superior openly question playcalling or other game planning issues. I am hired to coach the football team, if they want to coach the team, they can fire my *** and coach it themselves...I have told parents (and others) who wanted to question playcalling to "...go to college, get a degree, get a head job, then they can call whatever play they want to."
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Post by raiderpirates on Nov 7, 2008 19:52:47 GMT -6
Taking a knee may keep your best players from getting hurt. Imagine losing your best player for the season because a team gets mad you try to run up the score.
We're leading in a Jr league game, they down it. Learn to protect the win you earned and the players who earned it. There's a bigger game next week than the moment in time you elect to take a knee. Those guys will be in more than one play then.
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Post by spreadbone on Nov 8, 2008 17:05:09 GMT -6
...... I make roughly 3500 a year in a coaching supplement, most of which goes right back into the program. I'm sorry, I'm not going to have what I call out on the field questioned like that. Is that the wrong attitude to take? I could see if I was Les Miles at LSU making 6 or 7 figures etc. Sorry, gotta laugh at this.... I make $2500 as Head Varsity coach, so your $3500 for a JV coach doesn't really sound that bad. Regardless, the AD overstepped his boundaries, plain and simple. I'm not a JV HC I'm the HC. He didn't call the JV HC he just decided to call me. He has since aplogized, but I'm keeping my eye on him, don't trust him anymore. |
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Post by utchuckd on Nov 9, 2008 9:24:55 GMT -6
Taking a knee may keep your best players from getting hurt. Imagine losing your best player for the season because a team gets mad you try to run up the score. I teach my qb's how to take a knee. Come to think of it, I teach the whole 'victory formation' as it's own play and teach the whole offense how to run it. |
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Post by kdcoach on Nov 9, 2008 14:19:57 GMT -6
We too practice the Victory formation every week at practice. It's the last thing that we do prior to leaving the field after our walk-through the day before the game.
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