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Post by cmow5 on Oct 31, 2008 7:36:20 GMT -6
Guys, is there play/plays out there where the ball is snapped and everyone is moving, BUT the o-line.
I have seen this a few times this year with a few different teams. U of M did it a few times and I just thought it was miscommunication then a saw it one or two more times with another team (Cant remember what team) then last night on ESPN Cincy did it. Is this a designed "Trick" Play.
If the dline is going off of body movement then I can see it being effective, but if they are going off the ball then I can see it as a good way to get your QB killed.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Oct 31, 2008 7:54:30 GMT -6
ANy one have a you tube link? I'd like to see it.
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Post by gunrun on Oct 31, 2008 8:09:03 GMT -6
Rich Rodriguez has been doing that for a while. When the defense crosses the neutral zone, the Center will snap the ball. The WRs will run Go routes and the OL will freeze. This gets the Defense to freeze while the WRs run by them.
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Post by Coach JR on Oct 31, 2008 10:01:32 GMT -6
Rich Rodriguez has been doing that for a while. When the defense crosses the neutral zone, the Center will snap the ball. The WRs will run Go routes and the OL will freeze. This gets the Defense to freeze while the WRs run by them. Tuberville runs a play like that at Auburn, thought I haven't seen it in a while...it's called "Purple". I think they actually call it in the huddle along with a live play when they want to run a hard count. I don't know if there's a verbal que at the snap or not, but if the center catches a DL in the neutral zone he snaps the ball, the outside WRs run fades, and the QB launches the ball...the OL just stands up and relaxes, which causes the DL to do the same usually...alert DBs usually foil it, but it's gone for a TD before too, and it's a free play if there's a pick. |
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Post by tothehouse on Oct 31, 2008 10:01:53 GMT -6
I saw this last night in the Cincinnati/South Florida game. All the announcers were laughing and couldn't figure it out. I was laughing because I knew what they were trying to do. To SF's credit...they kept playing and forced a bad ball by the QB (incomplete).
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Post by cmow5 on Oct 31, 2008 10:32:46 GMT -6
I can see doing it if the D jumps, but if I remember right the ones I have seen (This Year) it seems like it is a called play in the huddle and will be ran no matter if the D jumps or not. I could be mistaken.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2008 11:27:46 GMT -6
could it be this, i was wondering what the hell florida was trying to do with this play, and why the OL does not move at all
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Post by cmow5 on Oct 31, 2008 11:45:10 GMT -6
No not that. that looks like the pole cat or something like that. I am talking about a real formation I cant remember if it was power or spread or both, but a traditional O-LINE NOT moving after the snap. I cant seem to find a video of it and every time I have seen it the Talking heads seem to think it was a mistake, but I dont think so.
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Post by tothehouse on Oct 31, 2008 12:12:52 GMT -6
The one last night was when the D jumped offsides. I have not seen the one with a team snapping the ball and standing there...without the defense jumping.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2008 16:37:58 GMT -6
video of the cincy/usf game is on espn.360.com, if you remember about when in the game it was run i can look for it and try to get a video...im pretty interested too.
the one above looks intentional too.....the OL does not move at all, even a couple seconds after the snap. no way that isnt planned, they would at least do something once they realized the ball had been snapped.
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Post by cmow5 on Nov 3, 2008 23:16:56 GMT -6
video of the cincy/usf game is on espn.360.com, if you remember about when in the game it was run i can look for it and try to get a video...im pretty interested too. the one above looks intentional too.....the OL does not move at all, even a couple seconds after the snap. no way that isnt planned, they would at least do something once they realized the ball had been snapped. That one was when the D jumped, but I swear U of M did it a few times this year as a designed fake. Maybe I am losing my mind  I think it was the Utah game and then I saw it again Maybe against my Irish. |
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Post by mrigg on Nov 4, 2008 10:03:26 GMT -6
Is this what your talking about? WVU runs it two times in a row in the following clip. I think they run it to screw with the defenders that are reading movement of the OL. It could slow the DL up off the ball and it screws with the 2nd level defenders that get a run pass read off the OL. I read somewhere they run it with a sprint out package so they still have a play on the perimeter. video.google.com/videoplay?docid=418129246625874017&q=wvu+line&hl=en |
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Post by cmow5 on Nov 4, 2008 10:26:26 GMT -6
Thats it. Thanks.
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I think it was the Utah game and then I saw it again Maybe against my Irish. 