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Post by splitricky5 on Oct 20, 2008 12:54:39 GMT -6
Need some advice boys. We are breaking down opponent film and the tight end for our upcoming opponent holds like a you know what EVERY play.
At one point in the game, the opposing Sam throws his arms up in the air screaming at the official. He does this three plays in a row, the ref talks to the tight end after the third play, and finally flags him on the fourth. The entire defense then started cheering because they knew how bad this kid was holding.
My question for you is (a) what do I tell my sam linebacker to fight the impending abuse? and (b) is there anything I can do to get it called early and often? Thanks in advance.
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Post by knighter on Oct 20, 2008 13:17:48 GMT -6
Just be sure to tell your dad (if he attends games) to keep his mouth shut. I had to eject my dad (I am the AD as well) at last Friday's game....LMAO. Best part of it is he is a retired superintendent of schools...
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Post by goldenbear76 on Oct 20, 2008 13:30:11 GMT -6
Don't let your players address anything to the officials tell them to keep their mouths shut. That is your job. Secondly, he needs to knock that TE's arms off. We call it "breaking their arms" with a hard downward smash by your forearms onto his arms. Then play your assignment.
The thing is...he might be holding inside the framework of the defenders and its a tough penalty for an official to call. If he's holding outside on the shoulders/arms..then that is on the official big time.
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Post by superpower on Oct 20, 2008 13:58:48 GMT -6
I agree with goldenbear's feedback here, but I would also consider these items:
1. Why is the TE getting a free shot at my LB? Shouldn't someone at least be slowing him down at the LOS?
2. Is my LB getting a good key and attacking downhill?
3. Refuse to be blocked. Play fast and get off the block. We teach the "break his arms" just as goldenbear referred to.
4. I would address it with the officials in the pre-game conference. Just let them know what you have seen on film and ask if they would be aware of it.
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Post by timtheenchanter on Oct 20, 2008 14:28:33 GMT -6
Two things here:
1. The TE needs to do something to get away. Officials are taught about holding differently that when I played. Just because the hands are outside doesn't mean there is a hold.
2. Tell him to break the block. Too often I have a player who gets grabbed and stops. That isn't a hold. He has to be trying to go somewhere. He needs to, through his actions, give the player attempting the hold the choice of letting go or pulling him down, twisting him, turning him, or altering his path. That helps the official to see the hold.
3. Holding on the edge is going to be difficult for a 5-man crew to get. With each official watching keys, the flanks are going to have multiple players. If they aren't watching when the hold occurs, they won't get a flag. The hold on the edge, in my opinion, is one of the most-missed calls in the HS game. Logistically, it's just hard to get consistently.
If you want more detail on holds and how they work, I would be happy to address what I know.
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Post by eickst on Oct 20, 2008 15:16:37 GMT -6
In our last game our NT was getting held on every play, the center would basically grab him and fall down, pulling him down with him. No calls.
The game prior to that the center just wrapped up around his legs and didn't let go. No calls.
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Post by splitricky5 on Oct 20, 2008 19:41:07 GMT -6
I wish I had a way to show you guys what this guy does. You'd be flat out amazed. I mean, I'm watching the film and seeing this guy literally (I'm not exaggerating here) grab both of the guy's back numbers, spin him in a circle and throw him on the pile.
Just to answer some of your questions, our sam plays on the outside shoulder of the TE on the LOS. His key is the tight end and it's his job to make contact with him every down. I will definitely advise him to break the block. Any good ideas on drill work for this type of thing? Thanks for all of the input.
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