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Post by airraider on Oct 14, 2008 21:23:08 GMT -6
We played my old school this past week.. They were better than us.. stronger.. better coached.. the whole 9 yards.. whatever..
Score was 13-12 at the half.. 2 minutes left in the 4th we are out of timeouts and we punt the ball down 33-12.
Horrible punt and they get the ball back at or around our 30.
1:45 left on the clock at this point.. and here jogs out their starters..
I'm thinking surely they will be in the victory formation and run this thing down.. or at the very least.. hand the ball off..
But no.. 4 straight pass plays.. 2 of which end up being QB runs as we pressure him.. with him getting his pretty hard on 4th down.
This coach had some beef with me over something from earlier in the year and come to find out.. this is why he attempted to score more points..
I found this out because I walked out and called him on why he felt like throwing the ball to score more points.. and he got in my face and yelled about the incident that had happened.
Some words were exchanged and him and his assistant threatened to kick my $%# and had to be restrained. I found that part rather amusing and told them to come by my house anytime.
Looking back I never should have questioned him. I should have just shook his hand and said nice game.
Not to mention one of my players was ejected for throwing a punch during one of the last plays.. and he got in the hand shaking line and shoved the same kid which almost started a brawl.
Both teams were separated before anything could happen.. but overall it was a messy situation..
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Post by los on Oct 14, 2008 22:12:35 GMT -6
At least you're thinking about "just keeping quiet, shaking hands and saying good game"....getting wiser in your old age....lol...... good luck with the rest of your season....... los
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Post by ajreaper on Oct 14, 2008 22:42:42 GMT -6
What type of horses ass takes out a beef he has with a coach on that coaches players? That's low class as they come- whatever you did to piss him off good for you and I hope you do it again to the classless prick. My 2 cents.
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Post by coachorr on Oct 14, 2008 22:56:54 GMT -6
Good thing his QB wasn't hurt scrambling around. Cooler heads prevailed, yet we won't forget too soon what just happened.
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Post by carson101 on Oct 15, 2008 0:28:50 GMT -6
ESTERO, Fla. - The Estero High football staff gathered in head coach Rich Dombroski's office late Friday, almost in stunned silence.
Earlier that night, Estero lost to Naples High by 13.
Not by 13 points. By 13 touchdowns. That's right: Naples 91, Estero 0.
All-purpose back Greg Pratt helped Naples pile on the points. The rout fallout has been growing since the game ended.
"Hey," offered Estero defensive line coach Pat Hayes after the one-sided affair, "I didn't even know 91 was a multiple of seven."
With that, the coaches all got a much-needed laugh.
A half-hour away in Naples, Eagles coach Bill Kramer—the man on the winning end—could use one of those.
He looked at the scoreboard late in the game, saw 91-0, and said he felt sick to his stomach. Kramer's team ran only 31 plays and he kept most of his best players on the sideline—for the entire game in some cases. But still Kramer knew what was coming.
Soon after the game ended, his inbox began filling with angry e-mails, some from Estero parents wondering why so many points were necessary, some from Naples parents wondering why their kids didn't play more in an effort to pad their stats.
"There's only one way to describe it," Kramer said. "Just bizarre."
The schools aren't far off in size: Estero has about 1,400 high schoolers, Naples roughly 1,700.
But the pedigree of the football programs couldn't be more different.
Estero is rebuilding from the lowest level, with Dombroski in his first year at the school and having inherited a program that had simply crumbled. Naples is the reigning state Class 3A champion, and a contender to win the title again. Naples has players committed to Division I schools like Ohio State already and a roster filled with talent at every position. Estero has no college prospects and only about 25 healthy or so players remaining on its roster.
"Some of us, most of us, well, all of us were intimidated," said Tyler Eastridge, a free safety who may be exaggerating when he says he weighs a 150 pounds.
Naples led 70-0 at the half; only four of the 1,420 games reported by member schools to the Florida High School Athletic Association this season have seen teams score more than 70 points.
"It was David versus Goliath," Dombroski said, "and David didn't have a stone to throw."
The national record books are incomplete, but a score like 91-0 won't register a blip on the list of all-time defeats. It wasn't even the most lopsided score in the country this weekend—in Ohio, Beechcroft beat Centennial 96-0, taking knees on plays in the fourth quarter to avoid triple figures.
According to the National Federation of State High School Associations, five teams have scored more than 200 points in a game, with the record believed to be 256 by Haven (Ky.) High in 1927.
Dombroski isn't blaming Naples.
"Naples did absolutely nothing wrong," Dombroski said. "We just didn't do anything right."
Kramer has been in this spot before.
In 2001, the Golden Eagles scored 63 first-quarter points and beat Lely High — ironically, where Dombroski's girlfriend teaches today—85-0, and Kramer suddenly became the target of perceptions that he intentionally ran up the score.
But in that game, just as on Friday, Naples had some of its starters not play at all, and others just for one or two series.
Carlos Hyde paves the way "We've been through it before and you never want to go through it again," Kramer said. "There were people ready to burn my house."
It's an unsettling time again.
The Naples Daily News ran a poll asking if Kramer and his team "should be ashamed" over the result, and by Monday afternoon, the vote was nearly dead-even: 239 no, 225 yes.
Hearing that, even Dombroski shook his head. He e-mailed Kramer on Monday to reiterate that Naples did nothing wrong, but that's hardly the only opinion swirling around Naples these days.
"My daughter plays basketball and there's a local team that's really good and when they're about to score 100, there's no polls about that," Kramer said. "When the local lacrosse team wins 24-0, where's the outrage? Or when kids win 6-0, 6-0 in tennis? We score 10 touchdowns and everybody loses their minds.
"The real irony is we've got some of our parents upset that their kids didn't play or didn't play enough. And you just say, 'Wow."'
Dombroski knew when he took the Estero job that there would be days like Friday, but he said the 91-0 thumping might help him turn the program around.
"We won't forget this. I won't forget this," said Dombroski, whose freshman program is off to a 4-1-1 start this year, a sign that better days could be ahead for Estero. "We're not going to lay down. We're going to fight for 48 minutes, every time we're out there."
So on Monday afternoon, when school got out at 1:45, the Estero High football team headed to its locker room and prepared for practice. New scouting reports were waiting for them, and soon the team headed onto the field for practice, their blue jerseys whipping in the wind as they stretched.
"Our team might not be winning or might not be on top right now," said right guard Mike Perez. "But we all have to do the best we can do. We can't forget that."
And so, they were back to work, which they'll need. This week, Estero plays Cape Coral—a team that nearly beat Naples.
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Post by airraider on Oct 15, 2008 4:45:55 GMT -6
Good thing his QB wasn't hurt scrambling around. Cooler heads prevailed, yet we won't forget too soon what just happened. That was my biggest thing.. I have carried far worse losses.. But to me.. the game was over.. the clock was just a formality.. Why risk injury to kids when the game was over? Why not get your 2nd team some reps? Why not work on your field goal team? Why throw the ball into the endzone? Just lots of why's..
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Post by olinecoach61 on Oct 15, 2008 5:51:54 GMT -6
You can only coach your team. The game is 48 minutes long, get over it.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Oct 15, 2008 5:57:43 GMT -6
I had a jackass coach throw a few bombs as the game came to a close. We were beaten by halftime yet he wanted more. NO idea why either. Some guys just should not be around kids or the great game of football.
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Post by justryn2 on Oct 15, 2008 6:55:47 GMT -6
While I totally agree that it is totally classless to continue to run up the score on a team you've already beaten; I've learned to find the "good" (if you can call it that) when my team is on the loosing end of this kind of game. When they actually keep their starters in and we either find a way to score on offense or we make a stop on defense, it lets me tell my players that we were able to play with that team, against their starters after all. In fact, I actually prefer to go against the starters all game long, even if we're getting our a$$es kicked. To me, it beats what amounts to a pity game. Just my $0.02 worth.
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Post by brophy on Oct 15, 2008 7:29:43 GMT -6
when is the game "over"?
would anyone be upset if, knowing your team was beaten, that the losing coach calls a timeout in the 3rd qtr and says, "we forfeit....game over"?
We harp over and over about 'competing' and being a competitor....but only to a certain point (so long as we have a shot to 'win')?
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Post by airraider on Oct 15, 2008 7:50:43 GMT -6
You can only coach your team. The game is 48 minutes long, get over it. you are right.. I now feel that way... But in the moment its hard to look at it that way. To matters worse.. My principal calls me in this morning and issues me a formal reprimand.. And says I could have been fired. The other coach told his principal all kinds of lies.. I am feeling very defeated right now..
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Post by olinecoach61 on Oct 15, 2008 7:59:02 GMT -6
Oh man, the principal didn't ask your side of the story before jumping on you? Lame. Can the AD be of any assistance?
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Post by airraider on Oct 15, 2008 8:07:18 GMT -6
Oh man, the principal didn't ask your side of the story before jumping on you? Lame. Can the AD be of any assistance? He knows my side.. But I emailed their principal and the hc to admit that I should have never should have said what I said.. So he said he had to reprimand me.. The AD here is a joke title.. Only a fall guy when things go wrong.
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Post by coachorr on Oct 15, 2008 9:22:06 GMT -6
Make sure you have a formal letter of your own to go in your file with the reprimand stating that there was no due process (the principal did not investigate into the matter to find the facts of what happened he just issued the reprimand) and also stating your side of the story.
Sounds crazy, but you may want to see what your teacher's union can do, if anything since this is an extracurricular activity.
Look for parent support, but don't undermine the principal.
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Post by airraider on Oct 15, 2008 9:57:29 GMT -6
and to add to what coachorr suggests - GET THE HECK OUT OF THERE On my way for sure.. Just hope I can make it until May.
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Post by coachorr on Oct 15, 2008 23:59:26 GMT -6
I would try to take down the principal. This cat is way outta line!
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Post by oguru on Oct 20, 2008 18:02:13 GMT -6
I said it before, but it's the defense's job to keep the opponents offense out of the endzone. As far as when is the gam e over. When the clock hits four zeros at the end of the fourth quarter. Thats when it is over. Not before then is it over. As far as confronting the other teams coach. I would never do that, and never have. As it's classless,and shows that they got to you.
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