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Post by airraider on Oct 1, 2008 18:32:08 GMT -6
A kid I used to coach told me the other day that they were watching film of a recent loss.. where the safety was getting killed on the corner route from the smash play..
The kid was simply out manned..
The HC was in the film meeting with all 60 players and all 10 or so coaches and grilling this kid..
Then he says.. "thats ok.. Im gonna fix this.. I know a real good defensive back coach I can hire.."
How would you like to be the current DB coach and the HC call you out in front of EVERYONE like this??
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Post by phantom on Oct 1, 2008 18:52:40 GMT -6
Sounds like getting fired from this job wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
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Post by airraider on Oct 1, 2008 18:55:25 GMT -6
Sounds like getting fired from this job wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. You got that one right.. this guy (team) is in our league.. and the guy has been nothing but dismissive towards me. He is quite simply a pompous prick.. and it will swing back around on him one day.. |
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Post by coachturley on Oct 1, 2008 19:11:37 GMT -6
Most of us have probably worked for guys like that.....and thrilled when we walk out the door for the last time. When you are on a staff that works together and has great chemistry - its a great thing.
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Post by dcoach84 on Oct 1, 2008 19:19:48 GMT -6
I would run like hell!!!! If you want to yell at me, do it in private and I can handle it. No need to call anyone out in front of the kids. We're all grown men, right?  |
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Post by splitricky5 on Oct 1, 2008 20:07:25 GMT -6
Anybody been called out in the local paper?? (Like I and my staffmates were earlier this season) I am all for calling out assistants to do their job, but in the confines of the office.
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Post by airraider on Oct 1, 2008 20:08:34 GMT -6
yea...well...maybe the HC is right. I wouldn't say it in front of all the kids, but when we get beat on friday night on pass plays and my DB goes off about it, I'm going to tell him point blank "maybe if your phuking {censored} had done any go**amn ball drills like I've been telling you to do instead of backpedal and break drills, we wouldn't just be in position to make the phuking play but we would also have the skills to actually phuking make them." I agree.. but I know this guy.. worked with him while I was there.. and he is a company man through and through.. he will do EVERYTHING you tell him to do.. The kid in question probably should not have been in as a read cov 4 safety.. he runs about a 5 flat forty and is around 5'8 155. Sometimes all the coaching in the world wont get chicken salad from chicken poo. I personally feel that the new HC sees this guy as the last remaining coach from the old regime.. and wants to get rid of him.. |
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Post by phantom on Oct 1, 2008 20:35:20 GMT -6
yea...well...maybe the HC is right. I wouldn't say it in front of all the kids, but when we get beat on friday night on pass plays and my DB goes off about it, I'm going to tell him point blank "maybe if your phuking {censored} had done any go**amn ball drills like I've been telling you to do instead of backpedal and break drills, we wouldn't just be in position to make the phuking play but we would also have the skills to actually phuking make them." Unacceptable. Calling out a coach in front of the players is unprofessional and, more to the point, counterproductive. There's still a lot of season to play. The HC has destroyed the DB coach's credibilty and has made it less likely for the defense to play well for the rest of the year. That is, unless of course, the players believe in the DB coach. In that case the HC may have cut his own throat. |
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Post by CoachCP on Oct 1, 2008 21:14:00 GMT -6
Well, I was reading in Bill Walsh's Finding the Winning Edge that he could see a time and a place to call out a coach (probably not to this extent) in front of the players if the HC felt the players would perform better if they knew they're position coach was coming under fire for their bad play. He would then explain to the coach the situation afterwords, or perhaps before hand.
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Post by coachorr on Oct 1, 2008 23:03:13 GMT -6
One time a coach said something like that to me on the sideline in front of the kids (he was the DC). He was swearing at me and carrying on because I did not get the correct dlineman rotated in (I made a mistake and would have corrected it and would not said anything if he would have not been swearing at me). I looked right at him and I said, 'There is no fing way I am going to let you talk to me like that". He backed up and said, "Whatever".
I responded with. "Whatever? How about I don't kick your fing A right here in front of GOD and all humanity and then you'll think 'whatever". He turned and headed South down the sideline before I could get ahold of him. We had the discussion that should have taken place in the office after the game.
I still remember that day and feel bad for one of the few times in my career when I have acted so unprofessional, please don't think less of me (I usually never swear in front of the kids). It was a real down point in my career, but he nor anyone else on that staff ever berated and humilated me in front of the players ever again.
It's like I tell my students, "If you don't want to be treated like second graders, don't act like second graders."
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Post by coachorr on Oct 1, 2008 23:12:19 GMT -6
Yeah, I would have just looked across the film room and plainly asked, "What the HELL is that supposed to mean?" There just comes a time when you need to stick up for yourself.
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Post by coachcoyote on Oct 2, 2008 0:28:32 GMT -6
A*&hole personified. Rip me in private and I'll still go to the wall for you. Do it in front of the kids, and I wouldn't p!ss on you if you were on fire.
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Post by brophy on Oct 2, 2008 4:57:45 GMT -6
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Post by kurtbryan on Oct 2, 2008 6:44:33 GMT -6
That Head Coach is an a---hole!
Get a better gig.
KB
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