gcarter
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Post by gcarter on Sept 25, 2008 10:41:37 GMT -6
I only found one thread discussing helmet brand and concussions. I wanted to get some opinions. We have had more concussions this season (4), than I have had in my entire 15 years as a head coach. I used Schutt in the first 13 years of my head coaching career and I am now in my 2nd year at a new school, which uses primarily the Riddell Revolution. Thinking of going back to what worked in the past and going back to Schutt.
Anyone have an opinion on which helmet has worked best for them? How about other variables (I.E. Neck Strength)
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Post by touchdownmaker on Sept 25, 2008 12:00:24 GMT -6
we have a concussion a day, I swear.
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mike13
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Post by mike13 on Sept 26, 2008 6:15:00 GMT -6
I am not a fan of the Revo. We purchased 6 the first year they came out. Four of the six broke that year. The shell actually cracked. Riddell replaced them but I wouldn't put my son in one.
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Post by coachnorm on Sept 26, 2008 6:49:49 GMT -6
We've had more luck cutting down on concussions by changing mouthpieces than by changing helmets. We use Schutt DNA helmets mostly and had a rash of concussions three years ago. Our solution was to put every player in shock doctor mouthpieces. since then we've only had one concussion. I t may be a coincidence, but I think the mouthpieces help. We even put our JV and Jr. High Kids in them. The only drawback is that they are about 8 bucks a pop, but the kids realize that if they lose one they're not getting another and we aren't constantly replacing mouthpieces like we used to.
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wmaii
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Post by wmaii on Sept 30, 2008 10:31:13 GMT -6
I do know when it comes to the debate with Riddell and their regular helmet vs the Revolution I received information from a pretty knowledgeable source. I couple of years back I talked with the head equipment manager from the Miami Dolphins ask him what his professional take on the two styles of helmets because the big selling point of the Revolution model when it first came out was that it greatly reduced concussions. The equipment manger told me in fact that there were just as many concussions with Dolphins players that used the new Revolution model as there were players that used the Riddell regular model. The new Revolution model was a marketing thing by Riddell to get people to buy a product that cost more than the regular model. All I know is that my son received a concussion in each of the last 2 seasons using both Riddell models, so I am going with the information I received from the Dolphins. That is why I tell coaches to save their money and not buy Riddell Revolution helmets. I hope this information helps. God Bless  |
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htownoc
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Post by htownoc on Sept 30, 2008 10:54:38 GMT -6
We had four concussions this past Friday. I've never seen anything like it.
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Post by sneakyben on Sept 30, 2008 11:49:44 GMT -6
Just curious, what type of contacts are causing these concusions?
Which positions etc?
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gcarter
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Post by gcarter on Sept 30, 2008 12:57:29 GMT -6
We have had 4 concussions this season and I can't tell you for sure when they occured, I can only use the film and try to figure it out. One was a linebacker and he drove a ball carrier over a pile and hit his forehead on the ground pretty hard. Out of the three other concussions, one was a QB, FS, and another LB. The FS had a concussion from a collision with a teammate during a 7 on 7 in July and he had a fractured skull. He was cleared to play again and in our fourth game he had a collision with a receiver on a seam route, but not a great hit. This was his second concussion in two months and I'm sure it is due to the seriousness of the first one. He has now been cleared to play again. To help prevent another concussion, we put him into a Schutt DNA and a Shock Doctor Mouthguard.
Our linebacker caught a helmet under the chin and as for the QB, can't tell you how he got his.
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 30, 2008 19:08:24 GMT -6
We have had 4 concussions this season and I can't tell you for sure when they occured, I can only use the film and try to figure it out. One was a linebacker and he drove a ball carrier over a pile and hit his forehead on the ground pretty hard. Out of the three other concussions, one was a QB, FS, and another LB. The FS had a concussion from a collision with a teammate during a 7 on 7 in July and he had a fractured skull. He was cleared to play again and in our fourth game he had a collision with a receiver on a seam route, but not a great hit. This was his second concussion in two months and I'm sure it is due to the seriousness of the first one. He has now been cleared to play again. To help prevent another concussion, we put him into a Schutt DNA and a Shock Doctor Mouthguard. Our linebacker caught a helmet under the chin and as for the QB, can't tell you how he got his. Cleared to play? 2 concussions in two months and cleared to play? I pray nothing happens to this young man, but I know MANY a lawyer who would be chomping at the bit should something unfortunate happen  When my buddy was doing his masters thesis on concussions from football, it was pretty astounding how far behind the curve most M.D's are in return to play protocols. |
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gcarter
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Post by gcarter on Sept 30, 2008 20:35:44 GMT -6
He saw his regular M.D. and was then referred to a Neurologist and he got the ok to play. His first incident in July was a legit concussion. He was vomiting and was out of it for a couple of hours. The second incident, he seemed to not be acting like himself. So we had the Doc look at him and we pulled him from the game. He then sat out the week of practice and the next game. After seeing the specialist, they cleared him for play. He will punt and play a little wide receiver this friday. He will play no defense for us. I can only assume that the two Docs he saw know what they are doing. I'm just trying to reduce the chances of him getting a helmet to helmet collision.
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Post by Yash on Sept 30, 2008 20:54:32 GMT -6
I would second the shock doctor mouthguard. Look at a lot of these kids mouth gaurds and they are chewed down and barely cover any teeth. I think that the mouth guard has a ton to do with it. Our coach even put in a thing this year, you buy the 10 buck mouth guard and we paid for 5 of it with left over money.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 1, 2008 2:42:50 GMT -6
He saw his regular M.D. and was then referred to a Neurologist and he got the ok to play. His first incident in July was a legit concussion. He was vomiting and was out of it for a couple of hours. The second incident, he seemed to not be acting like himself. So we had the Doc look at him and we pulled him from the game. He then sat out the week of practice and the next game. After seeing the specialist, they cleared him for play. He will punt and play a little wide receiver this friday. He will play no defense for us. I can only assume that the two Docs he saw know what they are doing. I'm just trying to reduce the chances of him getting a helmet to helmet collision. Just to be clear, I was in NO WAY expressing any doubt or surprise towards you, but rather towards the medical staff making the decision. I truly admire the fact that you will not let him play defense. I also admire the fact that you recognized the potential danger and pulled him just for "not acting like himself" (not that having my admiration means much) And you are correct, you have to go by what the Docs say...I am just really surprised that they cleared him. |
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