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Post by airraider on Sept 13, 2008 23:58:48 GMT -6
We were called last night for what the BJ called "blocking too aggressively" He said his arms were moving forward faster than his body.. so basically a forearm flipper type block. Check out the video of this play.. its the Left RB (#11) in the gun.. do you see ANYTHING that would make this an illegal block? video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8785817349938292279 |
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Post by coachorr on Sept 14, 2008 0:15:55 GMT -6
Make up call. Submit it to the head official of the league. I call BS.
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Post by coachorr on Sept 14, 2008 0:18:38 GMT -6
Yeah, that is BS. Reminds me of when a an official in basketball tried to tell me that it is a charge if the Offensive player lowers his head, contact doesn't matter. Man was that guy an idiot.
You need to take your rule book to every game and ask the official to show where in the rule book it states this penalty as he has stated it.
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Post by airraider on Sept 14, 2008 0:54:55 GMT -6
Yeah, that is BS. Reminds me of when a an official in basketball tried to tell me that it is a charge if the Offensive player lowers his head, contact doesn't matter. Man was that guy an idiot. You need to take your rule book to every game and ask the official to show where in the rule book it states this penalty as he has stated it. The worst part is the guy tells me that he has warned him twice already and if it happens again he will eject him. And I am like  I am going to do my best to cut the Reff and the BJ.. both of those guys were VERY rude. We received a unsportsmanlike due to one of my morons running his mouth after we had gone up 32-0.. and I simply ask the reff for a #.. and he runs over.. and yells.. "Coach, its 32-0 and your player wants to run his mouth.. I would kick him out of here, but I dont feel like doing the paper work." The guy on my sideline was great.. he missed one call where we had 8 on the line.. and one came off in jet motion.. (he was not supposed to be on the line).. and he called it as being not enough on the LOS.. but thats a simple mistake.. but the other stuff didnt sit well with me. |
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Post by davecisar on Sept 14, 2008 6:17:20 GMT -6
Maybe the ref got uptight about the #11 strutting and nodding to the crowd after he made his knockdown hit ( the kid he knocked down made the tackle while #11 was struttting and nodding at the sidelines, nice effort my the pancakee)
Ive seen refs make up calls when they didnt like the attitude or actions of a player in situations like this. Not a fair call, but it happens.
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Post by 19delta on Sept 14, 2008 7:09:28 GMT -6
Maybe the ref got uptight about the #11 strutting and nodding to the crowd after he made his knockdown hit ( the kid he knocked down made the tackle while #11 was struttting and nodding at the sidelines, nice effort my the pancakee) Ive seen refs make up calls when they didnt like the attitude or actions of a player in situations like this. Not a fair call, but it happens. I wouldn't exactly call what the kid did "strutting", but it DOES look like the kid was definitely jawing at the other team on the sideline after the hit. With that being said, the penalty should have been taunting rather than "blocking too aggressively", whatever the heck that is. I do think that there was a penalty there, either taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct, but not "blocking too aggressively". |
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Post by champ93 on Sept 14, 2008 7:51:17 GMT -6
the kid who got blocked made the initial hit on the tackle
no penalty here
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Post by phantom on Sept 14, 2008 8:25:58 GMT -6
Maybe the ref got uptight about the #11 strutting and nodding to the crowd after he made his knockdown hit ( the kid he knocked down made the tackle while #11 was struttting and nodding at the sidelines, nice effort my the pancakee) Ive seen refs make up calls when they didnt like the attitude or actions of a player in situations like this. Not a fair call, but it happens. I wouldn't exactly call what the kid did "strutting", but it DOES look like the kid was definitely jawing at the other team on the sideline after the hit. With that being said, the penalty should have been taunting rather than "blocking too aggressively", whatever the heck that is. I do think that there was a penalty there, either taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct, but not "blocking too aggressively". That was his own team. |
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Post by davecisar on Sept 14, 2008 8:39:59 GMT -6
the kid who got blocked made the initial hit on the tackle no penalty here Yes, instead of strutting and walking around and jawing to the sidelines if the kid making the block had stayed with his victim, the play would have went longer LOL. I aggree, shouldnt be a penalty, but lots of refs dont like that kind of stuff and find a way to penalize it. Air said his kids also got a 15 yarder later for yacking/taunting later in the game etc. Sounds like it was a pattern of behaivior type thing. |
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Post by jgordon1 on Sept 14, 2008 8:59:00 GMT -6
we got called for ablock in the back and we were on the KickOFF team??? never heard that one before
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Post by airraider on Sept 14, 2008 10:20:57 GMT -6
the kid who got blocked made the initial hit on the tackle no penalty here Yes, instead of strutting and walking around and jawing to the sidelines if the kid making the block had stayed with his victim, the play would have went longer LOL. I aggree, shouldnt be a penalty, but lots of refs dont like that kind of stuff and find a way to penalize it. Air said his kids also got a 15 yarder later for yacking/taunting later in the game etc. Sounds like it was a pattern of behaivior type thing. That was our sideline.. and the kid didnt say a word.. I thought maybe they called it for that too.. Thinking he was standing over him or something.. but I thought the kid was walking off the field as if he thought "I did my job, play over".. I could have lived with the taunting call.. because heck.. what on earth was he doing?? But "blocking too aggressively"? That was the exact term the guy used. |
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Post by k on Sept 14, 2008 11:36:29 GMT -6
But "blocking too aggressively"? That was the exact term the guy used. What an idiot. If it was a conference game you should specifically request that person not do your games again. |
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Post by MaineManiac on Sept 14, 2008 11:46:49 GMT -6
LMAO - wow, just downright wrong. You need to submit this to the official's board and ask for an interpretation or an apology.
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Post by airman on Sept 14, 2008 13:18:36 GMT -6
I was more concerned that your lineman were standing around and and some players walking while the play was going.
#51 would be running the stadium steps on saturday for loafing on this play.
at least the kid who was flagged was giving effort.
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Post by davecisar on Sept 14, 2008 15:01:27 GMT -6
I was more concerned that your lineman were standing around and and some players walking while the play was going. #51 would be running the stadium steps on saturday for loafing on this play. at least the kid who was flagged was giving effort. He gave effort, but he gave up and walked to his own sidelines while the kid he intially blocked was making the tackle, watch the video closely. |
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Post by coachcb on Sept 14, 2008 17:20:20 GMT -6
It was a terrible call, send the video to the state official association and, at the very least, request that they not send that group of officials to your games anymore.
We're dealing with the same situation right now; got called for "roughing the passer" after we tackled a QB running speed option.
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Post by kboyd on Sept 14, 2008 22:27:27 GMT -6
That hit by one of our players gets the kid on the "Rock Squad" - T-shirt, rock trophy and a whole bunch of pats on the back.
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Post by wingt74 on Sept 15, 2008 7:21:17 GMT -6
Maybe the ref got uptight about the #11 strutting and nodding to the crowd after he made his knockdown hit ( the kid he knocked down made the tackle while #11 was struttting and nodding at the sidelines, nice effort my the pancakee) Ive seen refs make up calls when they didnt like the attitude or actions of a player in situations like this. Not a fair call, but it happens. Thats exactly what I was thinking... |
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Post by airman on Sept 15, 2008 15:24:51 GMT -6
I was more concerned that your lineman were standing around and and some players walking while the play was going. #51 would be running the stadium steps on saturday for loafing on this play. at least the kid who was flagged was giving effort. He gave effort, but he gave up and walked to his own sidelines while the kid he intially blocked was making the tackle, watch the video closely. maybe that is acceptable at your place but not at mine. you start walking while the play is going on still you get conditioning on saturday morning. we have a hustle board and a loaf board. loafers run on saturdays while those who hustle on a play get to watch. |
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Post by scally on Sept 15, 2008 15:36:06 GMT -6
you should come to Britain and see the state of our refs. Any british guy on here will say the same thing, they come out with some serious BS. They've not got a clue, telling players to calm down etc, celebrating a tackle or sack i've seen a flag for that.
The funniest was a flag for a high low, i chopped the DT, he fell into a LB on a blitz, who fell into the DE. that was done by an EFAF registered ref as well, which means he refs in European games.
Can;t complain as we don;t have enough refs, and if you do complain, you'll be lucky to have any refs for your next game. So coaches have to ref it then.
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Post by dubber on Sept 15, 2008 17:02:03 GMT -6
Ballistic is the word to describe my reaction.....probably would have turned into 30 yards of penalties.
BTW, airman brings up some excellent points, as does davecisar
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Post by airraider on Sept 15, 2008 19:43:12 GMT -6
Im not excusing ANYTHING that my guy did.. I went off on him due to his lack of effort and sense.. but still no need for such a moronic call.
His exact words were that "he cant lead with his arms moving faster than his body, he is blocking too aggressively and this isnt the first time I have told him about it. If it happens again he will be gone."
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Post by timtheenchanter on Sept 16, 2008 10:27:43 GMT -6
You may want to post this in the rules section and have BobM or MJT take a look at it.
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