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Post by fbcoach33 on Aug 12, 2008 9:39:20 GMT -6
I coach in Illinois and our school board wants to put in a No pass No Play elgibility, Pass all classes plus maintain a C average at all times. they say Texas and Florida have this in place and its been really effective and a good thing, we are in step two of putting this in place and we have lost 6 players throughout our program, most are special ED kids that struggle just to read. Just curious any info I could get on this, I dont like it at all and Im sure like alot of coaches on this board we have alot of borderline grade kids in our program and the only thing that keeps them in school is sports. Im all for elgibility but this is a bit extreme in my opinion. thanks
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Post by airman on Aug 12, 2008 14:59:24 GMT -6
while we do not have this state wide in wisconsin my high school has adopted this. pass all your classes with a 2.5 gpa.
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Post by 19delta on Aug 12, 2008 18:20:09 GMT -6
I don't like no pass, no play. It's one of those things that looks good on paper but seldom has the intended effect.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Aug 12, 2008 19:11:56 GMT -6
I am currently in private school now and our system is even tougher than the state system. Our system keeps a kid from playing any sport for a semester if he fails even 1 class.
Then on top of that, if one of my players has an "F" ave. in any class, every 3 weeks, they have to sit for that week. No practice or game.
It has sideline football players and cheerleaders too. I've lost several really good football players who have learning disabilities.
I know several private schools that do this "no F" check every single week. That would be even more difficult to deal with.
So, I have a staff member who is our academic coach. He checks all their grades twice a week, we know well in advance who is not going to make it. And sometimes losing a kid hurts us badly as a team, but hopefully will help the young man later in life.
OJW
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Post by PSS on Aug 12, 2008 20:53:00 GMT -6
Texas: Kid fails a class he is out until the next progress report. You essentially lose 3 weeks of eligibility. Of course at the end of that 3 week period, the kid must be passing all classes, not just the one he failed.
This is great for schools on 6 week grading periods but it really can get confusing for those on 9 week grading period.
Personally, I like the rule. Holds the student-athlete accountable for their school work.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 13, 2008 10:05:01 GMT -6
I think that it is important for us to keep "student" in the term "student-athlete". As such, I feel that no pass-no play policies are a good thing. Pulling Cs in high school isn't a huge undertaking for most high school athletes. And if it is a tough task for them, then there are programs available.
I also don't believe that these policies put learning disabled students at a disadvantage. In the school systems in this state, students can get an IEP for dozens of reasons. They are almost every possible advantage when it comes to keeping reasonable grades. In fact, these no pass no play policies can be a huge motivating factor; use the resources, keep your grades up, or you won't play football.
As coaches, we throw around terms like "accountability' and "responsibility" on the athletic field daily. It shouldn't be a stretch to include those terms in the classroom.
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Post by coachdawhip on Aug 18, 2008 19:56:51 GMT -6
In GA you must pass 5 classes if on 6 or more periods and if on block 3 out of 4 and be on track to graduate.
So in My school some of our best athletes are walking the halls, but that is there fault. You are in school for education not football.
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