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Post by maneuverwarfare on Jul 28, 2008 11:00:10 GMT -6
I have heard this used...is there another phrase for it? Do3es anyone have experience with it? From a defensive perspecitive, it seems like it would be really easy to defeat.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 28, 2008 11:11:29 GMT -6
Maneuverwarfare
Why would you say it would be easy to defeat? Generally all offensive methods have a "blocking rules", otherwise how would the kids know who to block? However, when someone uses the term blocking rules, they are usually talking about a systematic checklist that the OL just runs through in his head to determine who he blocks, regardless of the defensive alignment.
For example, the playside guards rule on an inside lead, or isolation type play maybe "inside/over/outside/NG". This tells him: If there is a lineman inside of me, I block him. If there is nobody inside of me, I block the man over me. If nobody is inside or over me...i block the man outside of me. And if there is nobody inside me, over me, outside me...then I block the Nose Guard (because there will undoubtedly be someone head up on the center if nobody is inside, over, or outside the Guard).
Most coaches find this method superior than having the lineman have to logically ascertain who he should be blocking based on the defensive alignment.
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Post by airraider on Jul 28, 2008 11:22:30 GMT -6
Maneuverwarfare Why would you say it would be easy to defeat? Generally all offensive methods have a "blocking rules", otherwise how would the kids know who to block? However, when someone uses the term blocking rules, they are usually talking about a systematic checklist that the OL just runs through in his head to determine who he blocks, regardless of the defensive alignment. For example, the playside guards rule on an inside lead, or isolation type play maybe "inside/over/outside/NG". This tells him: If there is a lineman inside of me, I block him. If there is nobody inside of me, I block the man over me. If nobody is inside or over me...i block the man outside of me. And if there is nobody inside me, over me, outside me...then I block the Nose Guard (because there will undoubtedly be someone head up on the center if nobody is inside, over, or outside the Guard). Most coaches find this method superior than having the lineman have to logically ascertain who he should be blocking based on the defensive alignment. As a former wing-ter... how I miss hearing "Gap-Down-Backer" |
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Post by CVBears on Jul 28, 2008 11:36:07 GMT -6
if the rules are base blocking every play, I may see a point to be made, possibly. But, without rules I have a hard time seeing how a team could ever move the chains.
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Post by airraider on Jul 28, 2008 12:37:13 GMT -6
I must admit that as a former wing-t guy.. I typically will know who will block who based on our defense.. I know if we have a 6 tech.. then the TE on bucksweep with gap-down-backer.. which would have him blocking the 6 tech..
I do know that if we give them a 1, 3, and 6 on the strong side.. that the 1 would "technically" be unaccounted for based on rules.. tackle and TE both have G/D/B.. Center blocks back.. so who has the 1 tech?? No one in 121.. so now you would simply run 131.. playside guard stays at home.. and FB now kicks force..
but if you know they are running true Delaware.. then there are some things you possibly can do to get them out of their favorite plays..
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 28, 2008 12:42:26 GMT -6
air---I think a great deal of wing teams changed this,and had the center reach while the FB filled backside (otherwise he is wasted).
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Post by wingtol on Jul 28, 2008 13:06:34 GMT -6
I have heard this used...is there another phrase for it? Do3es anyone have experience with it? From a defensive perspecitive, it seems like it would be really easy to defeat. No offense but that is a pretty bold statement to make. We use rules to block and have with an I team and a Wing-t team. Maybe you just don't understand how it works and think it maybe be easy to defeat. Like a few have pointed out every Offense has to have some system of "rules" on who to block or it would be chaos. Our rules are a progression of who the OL will block, they go thru the progression and of course rep against fronts we think we will see come game time. Of course you can move the D into position that will give us trouble but we have calls and adjustements that we also make to tell us who to block. To say it is easy to defeat is, no offense, a very arrogant statement to make in my eyes. |
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Post by coachmoore42 on Jul 28, 2008 19:15:47 GMT -6
Whoever has the chalk last wins.
You can exploit an offense's blocking rules by alignment, but if you stay in it they can now do something to attack the area you have neglected.
A game of cat and mouse, chess match, whatever you want to call it...that's exactly what is going on. You move somewhere to attack the offense, they then move the ball carrier to attack the area you left.
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Post by phantom on Jul 28, 2008 20:34:23 GMT -6
I have heard this used...is there another phrase for it? Do3es anyone have experience with it? From a defensive perspecitive, it seems like it would be really easy to defeat. Why? |
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Post by outlawjoseywales on Jul 28, 2008 23:42:41 GMT -6
Why is G.D.B. so easy to defeat? That's really a good system for most plays. Gap, Down, Backer. If a defender is not somewhere in that vacinity, pray-tell where is he? The law is the law, and another reason that the wing-t is still around. I find it a whole lot better system than trying to have my "brain-scrambled" 16 year old tackle to recognize what the defense is supposed to be called. "No, look on you arm band, and if it says G.D.B. for play #16 then you better get your fat rump to one of those 3 places." See wasn't that easy?  OJW |
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