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Post by WB22 on Jul 20, 2008 17:46:15 GMT -6
I have a problem. At my school, the cross country coaches will stop at nothing to recruit kids to play - even recruiting straight from the football roster. These coaches will tell manipulate the kids any way they can. They tell them they're too small for football, for example - and will get hurt or won't get playing time. Believe it or not, it has been working. I'm in a new job now & I think eventually I'll sell football enough that it'll be a non-issue. But, there are a couple of kids who are seriously considering cross country over football this season. Any advice ?
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 20, 2008 17:58:03 GMT -6
You need to seek him out and, man to man (calmly) let him know that you respect his program and you expect the same from him. It needed, bring in the AD. Any strong AD will back you on this one - no coach should bad mouth another in house team or try to poach their players. If you don't get backing on this one you may be at the wrong school.
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Post by dubber on Jul 20, 2008 18:00:22 GMT -6
If a kid picks CC over football, then, uh, you probably don't want him.
1. Talk to the CC coach
2. If that doesn't work, out recruit him. Shouldn't be hard, your sport is the one that rocks
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jul 20, 2008 20:07:25 GMT -6
If a kid picks CC over football, then, uh, you probably don't want him.
Generally, I agree, but in our situation, we need bodies to practice.
I wish I had answers for you... I'm just here to share in your frustration. We lost a kid to CC this year (Senior DB, has not played a full season yet, has missed one full season and a good part of the other two). He would have started (until he got hurt again), and then we would have had to move a LB to DB, which we have already done, so it solved that problem already.
He quit FB and opted for CC because- get this: he was worried about his knee problem. I have knee problems... running is the last thing I would do on it. Our CC team also has a freshman who wouldn't really help us in games now, but he would be a body (right now, we do not have enough bodies to scrimmage at practice). He played football in JH (truth be told, he also ran JH CC and was the best in the area. His dad is the girls BB coach, and I know they agonized over what to do... in this case, the kid probably has a real future in CC).
Our CC coach is volunteer (he is our track coach... been coaching for about 40 years... good guy) and he doesn't try to recruit our guys. I can not say the same for his returning senior... this kid's older brother played football for us through his junior year (shoulder surgery before the season last year- he stayed on as kind of a player assistant coach). This returning CC runner is bigger than his brother, but lacks the toughness (discipline, work-ethic, etc.) and didn't play football at all. He went out for CC last year and went to state (finished something like 63rd in state... we are small and in a very weak district in CC... most of us on this board could qualify for state in THAT district). I'm SURE he talked our former DB in to CC.
CC is nothing at our place... but this year they will field a full team (in a co-op situation) while we will struggle to practice.
We have 71 kids in the HS (not boys... total students). Having CC for the skinny, un-athletic kids never hurt us before, but now they have some guys who could at least help us practice.
In our situation, it is a sign that we have a lot of kids in our building who just do not want anything to do with commitment. CC is a good option to letter without really putting forth much effort at our place.
It is frustrating.
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Post by coachbdud on Jul 20, 2008 20:24:14 GMT -6
wow this is kind of shocking to me.
i cant imagine one of our kids wanting to do cross country. All our kids hate running at all. let alone miles at a time.
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Post by coachjd on Jul 20, 2008 20:49:32 GMT -6
I would go see the AD.
We have an unwritten rule here and its you leave the kids alone who are already in a sport. Get in the hallways and work on the kids who are not out for anything. To me this is very classless, unprofessional and needs to get his a$$ed kicked.
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Post by liberalhater on Jul 21, 2008 6:27:03 GMT -6
This is hilarious.
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Post by WB22 on Jul 21, 2008 7:54:27 GMT -6
I know. It's sickening. These guys lie & manipulate like you wouldn't believe.
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Post by 19delta on Jul 21, 2008 7:56:51 GMT -6
Out-recruit the cross country coach.
Don't be a afraid of a little competition.
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Post by airraider on Jul 21, 2008 8:09:46 GMT -6
I say kick him in the nuts.
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Post by WB22 on Jul 21, 2008 9:26:52 GMT -6
I am trying to out-recruit him. But he's in the building with my players. I'm in the same district - but not in that building. Plus, I just got the job about a month ago. He coaches basketball, too & has been working them for a while. Just for perspective, 2 years ago, he tried to get a kid to quit football (it almost worked), telling him he was too small & would get hurt. Well, that kid is now the best football player in the high school & can't believe he almost chose cross country. The coach reminds me of a used car salesman. He'll say anything to close the deal.
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Post by casec11 on Jul 21, 2008 9:38:36 GMT -6
I say kick him in the nuts. Couldn't have said it better.... Recruit his best runners and tell your players to help recruit them, and go after his Basketball players too. |
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 21, 2008 13:25:47 GMT -6
Boys, boys ... let's take the high road here. Talk to him, then talk with the AD. THEN try to take his kids and kick him in the nuts!  |
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Post by spreadattack on Jul 21, 2008 17:23:49 GMT -6
Boys, boys ... let's take the high road here. I agree. Don't get violent, and bring in a little outside persuasive assistance . . . |
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Post by k on Jul 21, 2008 18:58:05 GMT -6
Our captain this year ran cross country as a Freshman and Sophomore. Played one year of football and was UNANIMOUSLY elected as captain this year over 4 year players.
I'm one of the bad guys though. I recruit from the soccer team all the time. Two freshman last year were varsity starters. They are playing football this year. One will start at tight end the other at halfback.
If there were players on the cross country team I wanted to play football I'd go after them.
I don't go up to kids I don't know and try and recruit them but the HC does. Being the only coach in the building if I have a soccer player who I'm close with and he should be playing football I'm going to tell him that.
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Post by wonderingcoach on Jul 23, 2008 3:35:54 GMT -6
Talk to the AD. THe CC coach should be fixed.
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Post by talexander on Jul 23, 2008 5:57:14 GMT -6
Talk to AD--remind him that Cross Country doesn't make the $$---football does.
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