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Post by airraider on Jul 14, 2008 8:14:55 GMT -6
How do/would you handle a PE class that in the past has been a "roll the ball" class?
I have inner city kids and for the last no telling how many years, it has been a basketball class during PE.
The kids play in their Dickies and t-shirts.. no one dresses out.. and EVERYONE in the school tries to skip and come to the gym..
So.. I plan on putting a stop to it this year.. they will either dress out.. or copy a dictionary.. if they cannot do either.. they get an F..
We will put the basketballs up and will do other activities that are less attractive to "Jimmy" who should be in Algebra at the moment.
but my question is.. what is your uniform policy??
My principal suggested renting them to them everyday.. BAD idea in my mind.. because we only have roughly 50 minutes per class.. and I do not want to keep up with money everyday..
The other PE teachers suggested a PE fee in which we purchase uniforms for them.
I am thinking of telling them that they have to have a white T-shirt and red shorts.. get them on your own.. take care of them on your own..
lots of pros and cons for each I guess..
Also.. I thought about just putting my class in the weightroom M-W-F and doing some sort of game/activity on Tue-Thurs..
But that might get old for the kids during the year..
I just dont see these kids playing floor hockey without mutiny setting in.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Post by justwingit on Jul 14, 2008 8:33:32 GMT -6
I don't know many schools that still have pe uniforms and the administration/parents might balk at having the kids required to buy them. Our rule is that they have to wear shorts, t-shirt and gym shoes. We give them 3 "no participation" before their grade starts dropping a letter grade. If they get more than seven in a quarter they flunk. That is still is more than I would like but its a start.
Definately get rid of the "roll the ball out" mentality. Sure, some days they can have individual interest time but it will drive you crazy if you do that every day. They may not like it at first but most will enjoy the structure of a real pe curriculum.
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marboo59
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Post by marboo59 on Jul 14, 2008 8:36:24 GMT -6
Coach you can get cheap Pe uniforms at places like Sport Decals and places like that. I do the copy the dictionary thing but instead i give them old football books to copy. We lift on Tue-Wednesdays and do activities on MWF. The problem with Freshmen PE is kids are starting to think they are too cool to do certain things. If you find a way to make it enjoyable the kids will change their attitudes.
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coachwoody
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Post by coachwoody on Jul 14, 2008 8:38:27 GMT -6
I personally like the MWF conditioning and weight training and TTh activity idea. That was the suggestion for a grad class I had to write a curriculum for PE. You still teach the activity for 2-3 weeks but in all actuality they get 4-6 days of doing the activity. I found out when I was at Jonesboro-Hodge the kids liked doing other activities besides basketball. It will be tough the first couple of weeks but I think that once you get your routine started and they get accustomed to it everything will run smooth and the kids will appreciate that you are trying to teach them something new.
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Post by airraider on Jul 14, 2008 9:50:44 GMT -6
Great responses guys..
I just want to create some structure without having a total uproar.
I know uproar or not, they have no choice in the matter.. but easy goes it is still the best way..
I am thinking of having them line up and do calisthenics.. that should burn a good 10-15 minutes everyday.. I can have roll done while they are doing this.. and then we can get into our activity.. whatever it may be..
This will be my first year actually doing a full year of PE.. I came in last year in Feb and just went with the flow already established.. but with new kids.. we are going to do something with some structure for a change..
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Post by coachbdud on Jul 14, 2008 11:45:43 GMT -6
well we have a PE uniform they buy at the beginning of the year. It is Crimson Shorts and a GRey Shirt. PE Teachers are pretty cool about it though. You can either where that or you can wear any basketball shorts/sweatpants and a T shirt. If you dont dress out you lose the points for that day, its that simple. It isnt always basketball either. For a typical 9th grade PE class they get just about eveyr sport done. They spend 2-3 weeks doing each sport. GOing over everything from football, basketball, baseball to Badminton. and dodgeball
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Post by coachcathey on Jul 14, 2008 13:25:05 GMT -6
airraider,
Look what the state guidelines are for what are suggestions to teach. I know different states have different curricular goals. The guidelines will not address the uniforms, but a pair of shorts and t-shirt along with sneakers, should suffice any requirements, you can encourage a uniform but make it optional.
Keep it structured whatever you do. Depending on equipment can determine what you can teach, options such as flag football, Ultimate Frisbee, ping pong, bowling (do scoring and set up a field trip, make it special), etc. I suggest staying away from dodge ball, unless you make it clear that everyone doesn't have to play, if someone get hurt, you can possibly be looking at a lawsuit in today's' society. Help the kids be competent at something they can possibly do out side of school later on in life.
If they are having trouble dressing out, do a reward system, 85% of you dress out for 4 consecutive days, then on Friday you get to play sport of choice. Modify the % down and the days down to start with and then increase it as they start to reach the goals.
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Post by chadp56 on Jul 14, 2008 13:55:45 GMT -6
I took over a crappy PE program sevral years back and I found most kids will meet your expectations. I will say I wasn't in an inner city school so I can't speak to those particular issues. My basic view on PE is that if you aren't teaching lead up skill then you are having gym class, which is just rolling the ball out. Teach the kids how to play floor hockey and they will probably enjoy playing it (you will never please everyone though). Spend 3-5 days on lead up skill and 5-10 days on games. You could always lift Tuesday and Thursday or even one day a week if that keeps it fresh, that is a seprate class in our curriculum. I don't like "free days" but if that is what gets these kids motivated I'd have to do that. On the clothes, I require shorts or warm-up pants and a t-shirt or sweathshirt. Whatever they can get their hands on works fine. If they aren't dressed they walk along the wall alone. I figure some activity (walking) is better than no activity. I drop their grade every time they aren't dressed, and start issuing detentions at 4 times, and they fail if they get to 10. This is per semester.
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Post by coachaaron on Jul 14, 2008 15:05:15 GMT -6
I teach PE in an urban school, I have few things that I have learned, mostly because I have done them wrong and then fixed the error. Few pieces of advice:1) Have them change, or they get an F for the day and they have to sit. Make a F a 55 (not a zero), so they can recover if they choose to get on board later . . .also allows for giving a zero if there is an additional behavior problem or whatever. Our PE policy is that you get a combined total of 10 absences and F's, on the 11th you fail the term. Changing is just athletic wear, they wear uniforms the rest of the school day, so there is a clear difference for us between non-athletic wear. 2) Don't have other stuff for them to do besides your activity. Lock up the other equipment besides what you are doing that day. Even the stuff for that day, don't make it available until warm ups are done. 3) Have structured warm ups and cool downs, this will build routines that the kids will just fall into after a while and give structure to your class. Have the warm up more or less the same each time to build routine. 4) Coordinate with other PE teachers. If you teach in a gym where other classes are going on, see what the other teacher is doing. If you are really structured, but another class in the gym is just rolling out the balls, it may destroy your structure. If that is the case, find a way to seperate your class from theirs, like put a screen down or take your class outside. 5) Only do a unit, say floor hockey, for one week. Otherwise it gets stale. Open gym on Friday is ok, in my opinion free form play is important sometimes, if the kids perform well the rest of the week. Make open gym Friday a reward for good participation from the kids. Maybe do one day of skill development, 3 days of game play, and 1 day of open gym. I get a lot of, "but a don't like floor hockey (or whatever sport)" and my reply is always the same: "Liking the activity is not required, participating is." -Aaron www.beinekestrength.com |
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Post by midsfan on Jul 14, 2008 15:29:06 GMT -6
Use "Basketball" as a reward type thing. For instance, I typically used this on a Friday. I actually got to where we would sometimes play Touch Football OR Ultimate Football. I call Ultimate Football, "Aerial Ball". Played it with my kids that I student taught at an inner city school and the kids loved it. Basketball was a thing of the past. It actually got to where I almost ran into the same problem with Aerial Ball. I would find a select few sports or activities and change about every 2 weeks. Keep T and TH for your track/weight room days. Just like the movie says..."Keep the Body Guessing." PM if you want some more info and rules for Aerial Ball / Ultimate Football.
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Post by lyons on Jul 14, 2008 20:43:13 GMT -6
I think there are some great suggestions! What I did; our Mon,Tues, Thurs were activity days. I did the same activity for about 3 weeks or 9 days. On Wednesday were our Aerobic days 10 - 20 min runs, stations, etc. We always did warmups and stuff everyday. Then on Friday it would be a choice day. I would give them a couple of options or take suggestions and then vote. Majority rules! They really looked forward to Fridays
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Post by dvw29 on Jul 15, 2008 21:12:59 GMT -6
Great ideas! Y'all know your stuff. Here's my take on this... Some of it is the same/similar to others' ideas but its just my $.02.
1. Build routine with your schedule on a weekly basis. Helps with getting them to conform and know what to expect every day.
2. Have sport units that change or rotate on a weekly/bi-weekly basis.
3. Have weight room/track conditioning days (T/Th, M/W, whatever) where they are graded on how many laps, sets and reps, etc. they do that day.
4. Make them dress out and sit in roll call. Uniforms will be due to whatever resources you may have availible.
5. Lock the gym EVERY time you leave it so kids will not be used to coming in whenever they want.
6. Look for suggestions from kids on what sports to play AND have days where they have to come up with a game (that's safe and appropriate) so they have some ownership and control over the activities.
7. Warm up/cool down time every period.
8. Have high expectations for their activity and compliance but don't get bent out of shape when you don't have 100% participation every day.
My first gig was coaching and teaching JH Phys Ed... There is a special place in heaven for JH teachers, and an even better place for JH Phys Ed teachers. Those critters can be a handful.
We had the budget to have locks and uniforms for all kids (which we washed as needed) that were issued like textbooks would be and they would be expected to dress out every day and keep up with their lockers and gear. It took work at times but the 8th graders were good by the time we got them through the 7th grade year.
I am not in a hurry to get back to that kind of assignment but we had a pretty good model if I had to do it again. Good luck.
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