Coach H
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Post by Coach H on Jul 8, 2008 16:40:11 GMT -6
When do you know that you're ready to be a Head Coach?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 8, 2008 16:43:30 GMT -6
About two or three years after your first head coaching gig.
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Post by wingt74 on Jul 8, 2008 19:37:57 GMT -6
is that like Assistant Regional Manager vs Assistant to the Regional Manager?  CoachD hit it on the head. You'll never be ready to be a head coach till you get your feet wet for a few years. |
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Coach H
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Post by Coach H on Jul 8, 2008 20:12:52 GMT -6
I wasn't ready when I got right out of college. I didn't want to be like a lot of young coaches and get your butt kicked and then quiet. That is not to say it won't happen anyway. I have taken a different path and learned under great coaches. As of right now I'm learning from a coach that has been around the block and runs the offense that I want to run. We have a great understanding of each other. I ask him questions about things that strike up great conversation and get a straight answer.
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Post by kscoach on Jul 8, 2008 20:21:17 GMT -6
Just keep in mind that being a head coach is about an awful lot more than the schemes you want to run. In fact, the schemes you run are a very small part of it. Since you are apparently working for a great coach, my advice is to learn all you can from him about all aspects of running a football program.
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Coach H
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Post by Coach H on Jul 8, 2008 21:11:59 GMT -6
I agree with you!!!!
During my two years I volunteered for a guy who took me under his wing and showed me everything there is to know about caring for the students. However, he did teach me how to run a program. I listened and picked out the things that would fit my coaching style/personality. He DIDN'T teach me about finding a staff, dealing with adminastors, and parents. I didn't learn that until I got hired as a DC at a 8 man school were the HC was never there. I basically was the HC. I learned a lot of good and bad things from that situation. When a adminstor is comes to you and ask you why you're losing... What do you say?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 8, 2008 21:36:55 GMT -6
is that like Assistant Regional Manager vs Assistant to the Regional Manager? It depends on the ratio of Schrute bucks to Stanley Nickels. Also, if you are still looking for a goalline player..PM me. TO further answer the question, I think you are ready to start LOOKING INTO being a HC once you start asking yourself questions about fundraising, team management, facilities management, dealing with parents...rather than just dreaming up X's and O's all day. |
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Post by ajreaper on Jul 8, 2008 23:28:28 GMT -6
When a adminstor is comes to you and ask you why you're losing... What do you say? I'd tell him the other teams have better administrators ;D |
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Post by phantom on Jul 9, 2008 7:59:19 GMT -6
is that like Assistant Regional Manager vs Assistant to the Regional Manager? It depends on the ratio of Schrute bucks to Stanley Nickels. Also, if you are still looking for a goalline player..PM me. TO further answer the question, I think you are ready to start LOOKING INTO being a HC once you start asking yourself questions about fundraising, team management, facilities management, dealing with parents...rather than just dreaming up X's and O's all day. As a longtime assistant, and a content one, I can add that there's no shame in never being a HC. I CAN stay focused on pure football questions like Xs and Os and technique. It depends on what you want to do. The HC has to worry about stuff like what color jersies to wear. I couldn't care less. If you have "the fever"-which usually happens in the late 20s and early 30s- you won't understand what I mean. Some of you will, though. |
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Post by CoachCP on Jul 9, 2008 11:36:59 GMT -6
I had the ... "pleasure" of helping out a 6th grade spring ball league in Indiana where the HC was a Sophomore in college, and his first coaching job happened to be the Freshman/JV HC the fall season prior. It was simply atrocious. Prior to that youth spring league, I did 3 other camps, coached youth football for 7th/8th graders, and had full freshman season under my belt as an assistant underneath a HOF Wrestling coach, who happened to be our Freshman HC. I don't like to toot my own horn, but I was significantly more apt for coaching thanks to my experience, but I wasn't ready to coach even a youth team at this point in my opinion. For a guy in his 2nd (1st and a half really) stint to do it (the head varsity coach assigned him to it) was a huge blunder.
Lets just say that young sophomore in college pushed a 6th grader over b/c he had a bad stance at the LOS. He yelled at him after that. Kid was brand new to football, and it was then first day of practice. He expected me to have a Zone Blocking scheme installed that day, along with all the basics and stance. He also yelled at my center on his first bad snap. It was the kids first day at center, and it was clearly the QB's fault. (If you haven't guessed, this guy was a defensive player who was a skill position when he played.) I had to pull the coach aside to have a little talk with him. Luckily, that guy is going to have a chance to be a position coach after this season for that same level. His freshman team he coached earlier went 0-9 on the year BTW.
I'm still not ready, and I don't think I will be for another 3-4 seasons. I think I might be able to handle a Freshman squad right now. Thats not to say I wouldn't love the opportunity of being the true head man of a program, but I wouldn't even consider it for another 3-4 seasons, and realistically its probably still another 5-8 away.
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Post by airraider on Jul 9, 2008 11:44:28 GMT -6
 I had the ... "pleasure" of helping out a 6th grade spring ball league in Indiana where the HC was a Sophomore in college, and his first coaching job happened to be the Freshman/JV HC the fall season prior. It was simply atrocious. Prior to that youth spring league, I did 3 other camps, coached youth football for 7th/8th graders, and had full freshman season under my belt as an assistant underneath a HOF Wrestling coach, who happened to be our Freshman HC. I don't like to toot my own horn, but I was significantly more apt for coaching thanks to my experience, but I wasn't ready to coach even a youth team at this point in my opinion. For a guy in his 2nd (1st and a half really) stint to do it (the head varsity coach assigned him to it) was a huge blunder. Lets just say that young sophomore in college pushed a 6th grader over b/c he had a bad stance at the LOS. He yelled at him after that. Kid was brand new to football, and it was then first day of practice. He expected me to have a Zone Blocking scheme installed that day, along with all the basics and stance. He also yelled at my center on his first bad snap. It was the kids first day at center, and it was clearly the QB's fault. (If you haven't guessed, this guy was a defensive player who was a skill position when he played.) I had to pull the coach aside to have a little talk with him. Luckily, that guy is going to have a chance to be a position coach after this season for that same level. His freshman team he coached earlier went 0-9 on the year BTW. I'm still not ready, and I don't think I will be for another 3-4 seasons. I think I might be able to handle a Freshman squad right now. Thats not to say I wouldn't love the opportunity of being the true head man of a program, but I wouldn't even consider it for another 3-4 seasons, and realistically its probably still another 5-8 away. My first year ever coaching was my first year in college. I coached one of these 6th grade teams as an 18 year old. My assistants were another 18 year old and 2 seniors in high school. I knew everything a coach could know that year.. and we went 10-0 and won the city championship.. Looking back.. I knew NOTHING!! now, 11 years later.. I am going into my first year as a varsity head coach.. Looking back at my career.. I can point out several instances where I have seen my knowledge grow from month to month.. mostly due to this site and on the field trial and error.. I thought about being a HC for a long time.. not about wanting to become one.. but about what it would be like.. and whether or not I was ready.. I didnt know I was ready until this past season.. I was the OC.. but I did the half time speeches.. and did newspaper interviews.. and other NON football things.. and I thought.. ok.. I sounded half way like a NON-ASS.. so why not???
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Coach H
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Post by Coach H on Jul 9, 2008 17:55:31 GMT -6
Thanks Guys,
I have been on this site for about a week or so. I truly thank you for your advice and sharing your knowledge with me. Thanks,
Like I said earlier I'm in a DC role that I truly love right know. The HC wants me to run the 52 eagle which I have been learning since the day he gave it to me. My position involves teaching and coaching youth that have made some bad mistakes in their life. Some of the students only stay a short while. As a coach you never get the chance to build really but it has been a joy. The position will challenge my teaching ability because a lot of these kids never played football. The HC and I talk and it's a great fit..
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Post by talexander on Jul 10, 2008 5:05:10 GMT -6
I agree with you!!!! When a adminstor is comes to you and ask you why you're losing... What do you say? The other team scores more points than we do. |
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