kobra
Freshmen Member
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Post by kobra on Jun 20, 2008 7:13:12 GMT -6
I had a chance to actually play Madden 09 down at the EA Sports Studios a few weeks ago. The playbooks have a lot of the same passing concepts such as Mesh, Smash, Follow, and Texas that I see here being posted in this forum. Do any of you coaches look at some of the plays in Madden or NCAA and try to implement in your offense in some shape or form? Here is a link to the EA Sports blog site about the playbooks www.easports.com/madden09/fullsite/blog.jsp |
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Post by lochness on Jun 20, 2008 8:54:05 GMT -6
Do any of you coaches look at some of the plays in Madden or NCAA and try to implement in your offense in some shape or form? No. |
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Post by casec11 on Jun 20, 2008 9:06:30 GMT -6
the madden makers take plays or concepts they see run by real football teams
and try and fit them in to there game/code for the game....not the other way around
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 20, 2008 13:18:28 GMT -6
simulated football is about trying to translate real football into the game. Sure, if somehow a madden designed came up with something brilliant that I thought would work in a real game, then yeah why not
But that's very unlikely. It's largely a question of physics
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 20, 2008 13:25:18 GMT -6
I just read this blog from this designed.
This is a bit of a side note, but it's interesting to think about regarding these football simulations. As the guy points out, one of the problems deals with realistic stats when you simulate a season. Fine. To fix it he kept to the "tuning tool," which he never really explained. The problem is that real football isn't only played by simulating an entire season.
The level of these stats are a function of how powerful they made these players, plus how effective and realistic the plays are. Some of the plays they have in the games are poorly tested, and these skew the stats. We also don't get a feel for how realistic the running is. A guy might have a realistic looking 1100 yards with a 4.0 YPC, but if he never ever gets any yards up the middle, that's a waste.
Anyway, these games do a fine job but I still feel like they get rather myopic at times. I do think football is the hardest game to simulate - so many variables.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 20, 2008 13:55:21 GMT -6
 I think that madden has really helped increase my teams offensive production. Before, I got all of my teams plays from the product shown above, and my guys just looked like they were running around in circles. ;D |
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Post by dacoachmo on Jun 20, 2008 14:20:52 GMT -6
I think that madden has really helped increase my teams offensive production. Before, I got all of my teams plays from the product shown above, and my guys just looked like they were running around in circles. ;D ILMAO |
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Post by casec11 on Jun 20, 2008 14:59:51 GMT -6
lol
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Post by towtheline on Jun 20, 2008 15:23:06 GMT -6
hahaha
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Post by coachgreen05 on Jun 20, 2008 16:11:52 GMT -6
The physics and concept of the plays are terrible in Madden. "real play names" get the kids excited.
I remember they had spacing in 06,but u couldnt throw hitch routes at the point. What a waste of play.
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Post by dacoachmo on Jun 22, 2008 22:18:58 GMT -6
I do use it, but it's hard to draw some routes...like DRAGS or any routes that are rounded!!!
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tedseay
Sophomore Member
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Post by tedseay on Jun 23, 2008 5:28:13 GMT -6
I think that madden has really helped increase my teams offensive production. Before, I got all of my teams plays from the product shown above, and my guys just looked like they were running around in circles. ;D "Players actually 'block' and 'tackle'; ball can be 'passed' and kicked'." These bastards have seen my team! |
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Post by wingt74 on Jun 23, 2008 7:48:38 GMT -6
Do any of you coaches look at some of the plays in Madden or NCAA and try to implement in your offense in some shape or form? No. Me neither, I get my plays from the parents... |
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Post by lochness on Jun 23, 2008 8:14:43 GMT -6
Me neither, I get my plays from the parents... EXCELLENT COACH! And so you should...those folks watch a lot of NFL football, and any idiot knows that is the only criteria you need to be a good coach! |
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Post by wingt74 on Jun 23, 2008 8:46:45 GMT -6
Kidding aside...I guess if I saw something in Maddens that looked interesting, it might push me to do some research. Typically, if I find something new, no matter if it's from a clinic, this board, or heaven forbid a video game, I would bring it up at a coaches meeting to get input from my staff. Usually it's just razzle-dazzle stuff that we talk about...and never implement  |
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Post by coachorr on Aug 10, 2008 11:14:18 GMT -6
The main point about Madden or NCAA is that there is no identification of checkdowns or oline schemes and in my mind, this is where offensive football begins. Fun games to play nice to look at, but in all reality it is just a broad stroke of what really has to happen for a football team to be successful.
I will say this, however, Texas Tech, Mizzou, and Kansas are now more like what they were last year in the 09 version, which BTW I have fun playing with.
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Post by jgordon1 on Aug 10, 2008 16:51:23 GMT -6
I have heard of teams programming their pass plays into games where the qb can see coverage and make reads. I'm not sure if its madden or not but it sounds interesting to me. BTW one of you guys mentioned as a "zinger" to a kid hey why don't you start your own Madden franchise if you don't want to do what we ask you to do. been getting a lot of mileage out of that one this year THX
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