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Post by dhooper on Jun 17, 2008 23:00:20 GMT -6
Now thats funny, Heck I shouldn't went to coach Slacks camp thats all my players need. HA HA
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Post by dsqa on Jun 17, 2008 23:47:17 GMT -6
brophy, I missed you in Lafayette today! We had a great camp at St. Thomas More, and had a great turnout and a lot of fun. Sorry you couldn't join us. For what its worth, I'd like to offer my own sarcastic, and tongue in cheek turn on this...so here goes... It just seems funny to me that, at least Geoff believes it is worth it to attempt to teach throwing mechanics with an enthusiastic effort and hope that someone might actually improve. The higher you climb up the Ego Maniacal Passing Guru food chain, the less any of them believe you can actually change, or really improve, a throwing motion. There is just nothing more hilarious to me than someone not even believing in what they teach enough to think that it will change anything - WHY, AND HOW, FOR PETE'S SAKE, CAN THIS BE? I would sooner send my son to Geoff the expert for training, than the winningest super duper bowl, double powered, evaluator extraordinaire, college scholarship promising, guru who doesn't even buy what he is selling. I assure you, in comparision, Geoff is a salt of the earth, harmless, albeit misinformed, instructor. While I have laughed my fair share at his videos, I am increasingly doing so to my shame. Why? The more I think about what he is trying to do, regardless of its ineffectual presentation, I applaud his simple belief that in peddling his wares, somebody might actually improve. In my respect for those who seek to teach throwing on any level, he is distancing himself from those pharasaical, self-proclaimed gatekeepers of all athletic potential, those dismissers of the larger percentage of young men's dreams who pompously declare with an arrogance that nauseates my soul, that only those so anointed by divine grace with a current, and clearly undevelopable, ability to throw can enter. In their self-sovereign, and self-serving, assessments of all things quarterback, they unwittingly assume that because their exceeding coaching talent cannot produce lasting, or effective, mechanics changes in a QB despite their years of collecting checks in the name of providing the most cutting edge QB development, that it obviously cannot be done above the belly button - or it isn't worth it to try because everybody knows, "you either can, or you cannot throw the football." No, in light of this incredulous insanity, I think I will be the first to applaud Geoff the Expert's training here on the huey board, because, although he claims himself an expert - when I consider many of those who would similarly, and seemingly more legitimately, lay hold of that title - at least Geoff doesn't think sharing "brutal truth in the name of saving kids a false sense of hope," is good concept. He just keeps trying. As laughable as his work may be, it isn't nearly as hilariously, and painfully foolish as the abject ignorance of the devastatingly misappropriated presumptions of many of my QB training peers who persist in peddling teaching they don't even believe in themselves - Hail Geoff! (sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm) Pardon the interruption, we now return you to the lighthearted, fun poking banter of funny videos and those who produce them - Nothing to see here folks, just keep moving, no raving lunatics here, just read on...next post...we're all just telling jokes - How about them bears!!
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tedseay
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Post by tedseay on Jun 18, 2008 4:31:56 GMT -6
Coach Seay, I always trust your posts as relevant and accurate. I know, that's what makes things so darned easy...
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Post by airraider on Jun 18, 2008 9:00:58 GMT -6
brophy, I missed you in Lafayette today! We had a great camp at St. Thomas More, and had a great turnout and a lot of fun. Sorry you couldn't join us. For what its worth, I'd like to offer my own sarcastic, and tongue in cheek turn on this...so here goes... It just seems funny to me that, at least Geoff believes it is worth it to attempt to teach throwing mechanics with an enthusiastic effort and hope that someone might actually improve. The higher you climb up the Ego Maniacal Passing Guru food chain, the less any of them believe you can actually change, or really improve, a throwing motion. There is just nothing more hilarious to me than someone not even believing in what they teach enough to think that it will change anything - WHY, AND HOW, FOR PETE'S SAKE, CAN THIS BE? I would sooner send my son to Geoff the expert for training, than the winningest super duper bowl, double powered, evaluator extraordinaire, college scholarship promising, guru who doesn't even buy what he is selling. I assure you, in comparision, Geoff is a salt of the earth, harmless, albeit misinformed, instructor. While I have laughed my fair share at his videos, I am increasingly doing so to my shame. Why? The more I think about what he is trying to do, regardless of its ineffectual presentation, I applaud his simple belief that in peddling his wares, somebody might actually improve. In my respect for those who seek to teach throwing on any level, he is distancing himself from those pharasaical, self-proclaimed gatekeepers of all athletic potential, those dismissers of the larger percentage of young men's dreams who pompously declare with an arrogance that nauseates my soul, that only those so anointed by divine grace with a current, and clearly undevelopable, ability to throw can enter. In their self-sovereign, and self-serving, assessments of all things quarterback, they unwittingly assume that because their exceeding coaching talent cannot produce lasting, or effective, mechanics changes in a QB despite their years of collecting checks in the name of providing the most cutting edge QB development, that it obviously cannot be done above the belly button - or it isn't worth it to try because everybody knows, "you either can, or you cannot throw the football." No, in light of this incredulous insanity, I think I will be the first to applaud Geoff the Expert's training here on the huey board, because, although he claims himself an expert - when I consider many of those who would similarly, and seemingly more legitimately, lay hold of that title - at least Geoff doesn't think sharing "brutal truth in the name of saving kids a false sense of hope," is good concept. He just keeps trying. As laughable as his work may be, it isn't nearly as hilariously, and painfully foolish as the abject ignorance of the devastatingly misappropriated presumptions of many of my QB training peers who persist in peddling teaching they don't even believe in themselves - Hail Geoff! (sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm) Pardon the interruption, we now return you to the lighthearted, fun poking banter of funny videos and those who produce them - Nothing to see here folks, just keep moving, no raving lunatics here, just read on...next post...we're all just telling jokes - How about them bears!! Thanks coach.. didnt miss me huh?? Haha.. I had some QB's I wanted to bring down.. but money is tight at the moment.. Im going to get with you before next year and see about a stop in North La.. I think the tournout would be much higher up here than in Lafayette.. I would definitely do my share to promote it.. dont teach any of those 4A QBs from Louisiana too much today..
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Post by raiderpirates on Jun 18, 2008 11:03:33 GMT -6
The stitches are a bigger factor in rotation. Larger hands already reach them. Smaller hands don't and need more of middle placement. From the midway point on the back side as the center of where your palm would intersect, accounting for space to get air under it for lift.
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Post by brophy on Jun 18, 2008 11:14:39 GMT -6
The stitches are a bigger factor in rotation. Larger hands already reach them. Smaller hands don't and need more of middle placement. From the midway point on the back side as the center of where your palm would intersect, accounting for space to get air under it for lift. I've heard of that being done before years ago. I think it was known as the von Trapp method of using Bézout's theorem applied to constant objects into newton meters.
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Post by airraider on Jun 18, 2008 11:15:26 GMT -6
The stitches are a bigger factor in rotation. Larger hands already reach them. Smaller hands don't and need more of middle placement. From the midway point on the back side as the center of where your palm would intersect, accounting for space to get air under it for lift. So.. you are saying smaller hands should grip the ball farther towards the middle of the ball?? Hmm.. makes sense.. smaller hands.. grabbing bigger part of ball.. hey guys.. what was that sarcasm thing again??
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Post by dsqa on Jun 18, 2008 11:47:24 GMT -6
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Post by raiderpirates on Jun 18, 2008 12:03:01 GMT -6
Rotation for spirals, to aid accuracy. Accuracy and touch before distance.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 18, 2008 12:08:26 GMT -6
Is any post in this thread serious??
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Post by jefftheexpert on Jun 18, 2008 15:08:45 GMT -6
Is any post in this thread serious?? It is abundantly obvious that Coach Slack's post was serious and as I will verify, 100% true. Geoff believes it is worth it to attempt to teach throwing mechanics with an enthusiastic effort and hope that someone might actually improve. I would sooner send my son to Geoff the expert for training, than the winningest super duper bowl, double powered, evaluator extraordinaire, college scholarship promising, guru who doesn't even buy what he is selling. Geoff is a salt of the earth I think I will be the first to applaud Geoff the Expert's training here on the huey board. Hail Geoff!
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tedseay
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Post by tedseay on Jun 21, 2008 5:25:39 GMT -6
Is any post in this thread serious?? Sadly, yes...
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 21, 2008 10:51:38 GMT -6
Is any post in this thread serious?? Sadly, yes... Hoping this isn't one of 'em:Smaller hands, work more the center of the ball along the stitches. Good info on the follow through, you practically have to reverse engineeer the release for most players. The best control accuracy specifics' I've heard or have seen involve the passer's grip and follow through. The video makes certain to address those points. The stitches are a bigger factor in rotation. Larger hands already reach them. Smaller hands don't and need more of middle placement. From the midway point on the back side as the center of where your palm would intersect, accounting for space to get air under it for lift.
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Post by eickst on Jun 21, 2008 18:07:09 GMT -6
You guys have your kids use the stitches?
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Post by dsqa on Jun 22, 2008 16:15:58 GMT -6
No, we avoid anything to do with the seams, stitches, and laces and in fact, the ball. In order to be his fastest and avoid undue mechanics influence, he will need to tap into "the force," while he channels Luke Skywalker, redirecting the shotgun snap in middair to the receivers. That would insure the best possible method of removing the QB from the equation. Now, if the QB lacks the ability to contact his inner Jedi...
Oh, I am doing it again...
Anybody know how I can get in touch with George Lucas...
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coachbigelow
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Post by coachbigelow on Jun 22, 2008 17:19:28 GMT -6
Jedi Quarterback now that would be a movie.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 22, 2008 18:27:09 GMT -6
No, we avoid anything to do with the seams, stitches, and laces and in fact, the ball. In order to be his fastest and avoid undue mechanics influence, he will need to tap into "the force," while he channels Luke Skywalker, redirecting the shotgun snap in middair to the receivers. That would insure the best possible method of removing the QB from the equation. Now, if the QB lacks the ability to contact his inner Jedi... Oh, I am doing it again... Anybody know how I can get in touch with George Lucas... Typical D. Slack BS...where the quarterback automatically gets to be the Jedi/hero...and the defenders are obviously the evil empire....
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Post by tog on Jun 22, 2008 18:33:27 GMT -6
i think this thread has run it's course
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