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Post by airraider on Jun 16, 2008 20:49:20 GMT -6
This might just be better than Geoff and his techniques..
Who holds a ball like that last part???
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Post by brophy on Jun 16, 2008 20:55:25 GMT -6
well, at least Uncle Rico there is appropriately dressed. I mean, its not like they shot this when he just got off of work at his landscaping job. - Make sure you draw all the strength from the rotator cuff
- keep the elbow below the shoulder
- keep your chest out and UPRIGHT as the ball extends
Keep eating your Wheaties, kids
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Post by airraider on Jun 16, 2008 21:10:28 GMT -6
well, at least Uncle Rico there is appropriately dressed. I mean, its not like they shot this when he just got off of work at his landscaping job. - Make sure you draw all the strength from the rotator cuff
- keep the elbow below the shoulder
- keep your chest out and UPRIGHT as the ball extends
Keep eating your Wheaties, kids and its is always important to never wear shoes.. socks give you the best traction possible.
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 17, 2008 6:56:46 GMT -6
this has to be a joke, where did you find this?
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Post by tedseay on Jun 17, 2008 6:58:59 GMT -6
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Post by bigcroz on Jun 17, 2008 7:22:11 GMT -6
Man if that guy ever gets together with Geoff they may revolutionize the game.
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Post by lochness on Jun 17, 2008 7:50:26 GMT -6
Man if that guy ever gets together with Geoff they may revolutionize the game. It will be bigger than the A-11 or the "Lowercase L" offenses!! Brophy, good call on Uncle Rico.
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Post by brophy on Jun 17, 2008 7:51:07 GMT -6
Man if that guy ever gets together with Geoff they may revolutionize the game. seriously innovative ideas forthwith
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Post by airraider on Jun 17, 2008 8:21:33 GMT -6
this has to be a joke, where did you find this? Messing around on youtube with QB stuff.. and some guy was showing how he throws a football.. and one of the comments talked about how bad he was.. but no where near as bad as the Ehow version.. so there I went.. and there it is.. and he was right..
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Post by wingtol on Jun 17, 2008 8:50:39 GMT -6
The truly sad part is this guy thinks he is helping people out and truly thinks he knows what he is doing.
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Post by airraider on Jun 17, 2008 9:26:49 GMT -6
The truly sad part is this guy thinks he is helping people out and truly thinks he knows what he is doing. No, the sad part is.. there is some kid who now thinks he knows what he is doing based on this video.. lol
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Post by trojan on Jun 17, 2008 10:55:10 GMT -6
Coach Seay, I always trust your posts as relevant and accurate. I was a little disappointed when I followed your link and found that the sight didn't exist. ;D
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Post by poweriguy on Jun 17, 2008 11:27:22 GMT -6
<sarcasm> Boy, is this going to save me a bunch of money on not having to buy Coach Slack's video's </sarcasm>
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Post by lochness on Jun 17, 2008 11:29:29 GMT -6
<sarcasm> Boy, is this going to save me a bunch of money on not having to buy Coach Slack's video's </sarcasm> Shiznit, that is funny!!!
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Post by brophy on Jun 17, 2008 13:06:07 GMT -6
semi-related, but it does kind of play into how we teach stuff..... There is not much, from a skill/technique standpoint being delivered in this video, and that is the bottom line. I saw a San Diego State Clinic of Jim Harbaugh (now, mind you I REALLY like Jim Harbaugh) and he was going over ' throwing mechanics'. Here is a guy that was an NFL pro pill-slinger and pretty impressive credentials.........and the 'bottom line' of his clinic was, "they just gotta feel it...just whip it.....y'know, I tell ya, I don't know how to say it, but however you can get the ball out and to the receiver... just do it" So, I'm watching the video waiting....and waiting....waiting for something, anything that I could use to specifically target technique. NOTHING! And I'm left, after 45 min, just with a "WTF was THAT??"** Outside of kicking, throwing requires the most intensive discipline for mechanics (to eliminate delivery variables) and the information by Harbaugh wasn't much different from many other 'esteemed' QB coaches in that it is more subjective than objective. This lends itself to question just WHAT we are responsible to teach/coach if it isn't technique. Just what are we doing FOR the athlete, if we are not improving his immediate performance (to create consistent high-performance)? We can laugh and joke about the Geoffs out there, but if Geoff or Urban Meyer aren't delivering quantitive information we can use to help our athletes get better at specific areas of their game, does it really matter WHO gives the (non) information? This is not unlike, the difference between me telling a joke, or Drew Carey telling the same joke. Does WHO tells it (not how) determine if it is funny (valid)? If I tell you you can't invest in watermelons - would you not believe me, but believe Jim Cramer when he tells you not to invest in watermelons? **which is why I am so adamant about the service and resource that Darin Slack has established.
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Post by poweriguy on Jun 17, 2008 13:39:04 GMT -6
**which is why I am so adamant about the service and resource that Darin Slack has established. To Brophy and others here. My above comment was a stab at humor, and obviously I failed. In NO WAY was it a slam on Coach Slack personally, his teaching methods, nor his fine products. I apologize to Coach Slack and any other coach who has used or is considering his services. I am sorry. I have very much respect for Coach Slack and his methods. I highly recommend every coach use his materials and methods. His stuff is some of the best info on quarterbacking anywhere.
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Post by fbdoc on Jun 17, 2008 13:39:48 GMT -6
Harbaugh's comments are like those from many gifted athletes who then become coaches - namely, "Just do it like this" followed by them throwing, swinging a bat, or shooting a free throw. THEIR physical gifts, either genetic or through coaching, allowed them to perform at a high level, however they often lack the ability to "TEACH" those same skills to the genetically ungifted. Don't get me wrong, there are some great coaches who were also great players, but with coaching you've got to be able to "coach" it.
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Post by lochness on Jun 17, 2008 13:51:05 GMT -6
**which is why I am so adamant about the service and resource that Darin Slack has established. To Brophy and others here. My above comment was a stab at humor, and obviously I failed. In NO WAY was it a slam on Coach Slack personally, his teaching methods, nor his fine products. I apologize to Coach Slack and any other coach who has used or is considering his services. I am sorry. I have very much respect for Coach Slack and his methods. I highly recommend every coach use his materials and methods. His stuff is some of the best info on quarterbacking anywhere. Coach, I knew you were just trying to be funny. I thought your "sarcasm" brackets were hillarious! I know you weren't directing anything negative at Coach Slack...so no worries there. That's why it was so funny...
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Post by superpower on Jun 17, 2008 14:25:43 GMT -6
So I shouldn't direct my qb's to watch that instructional video on youtube?
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Post by lochness on Jun 17, 2008 14:58:31 GMT -6
So I shouldn't direct my qb's to watch that instructional video on youtube? [sarcasm]Coach, does it really matter with you running the Double Wing? I mean, c'mon![/sarcasm] See, it's funny, right?
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 17, 2008 15:01:57 GMT -6
powerguy - I'll take a stab and speak for brophy and say I don't think he was going after you. I think he more was just saying how great Coach Slack's resources are, and that as ridiculous as this video is, it's not that much worse than stuff being put out by "big name" coaches, i.e. his Harbaugh anecdote. I think it was just a jumping off point for some fresh brophy wisdom (and there is no sarcasm in that!).
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 17, 2008 15:02:53 GMT -6
P.S. that's me in that video
P.S.S. sarcasm?
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Post by towtheline on Jun 17, 2008 15:08:54 GMT -6
Maybe this is the guy that coached Ryan Leaf to NFL greatness back in '98?
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Post by bj88smc on Jun 17, 2008 17:09:11 GMT -6
Brophy, I was so excited to listen to Harbaugh at a clinic 3 or so years ago. Got there early, sat in the front row. I'm on OL/TE guy, so I was interested in hearing about QB mechanics from a guy who must obviously know, right? Well, it was EXACTLY like you described...."you just gotta feel it" Maybe he's a great coach, but he's a crappy clinician.
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Post by airraider on Jun 17, 2008 18:33:31 GMT -6
So I shouldn't direct my qb's to watch that instructional video on youtube? I know that post was intended for humor.. but I actually do like the Nike drill videos for different positions on youtube.
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Post by coachbigelow on Jun 17, 2008 18:57:37 GMT -6
If you see this same video is posted by ehow. There are tons of comments on the video.
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Post by superpower on Jun 17, 2008 20:29:04 GMT -6
So I shouldn't direct my qb's to watch that instructional video on youtube? [sarcasm]Coach, does it really matter with you running the Double Wing? I mean, c'mon![/sarcasm] See, it's funny, right? Yes, it is funny. While we don't throw often, I do think our passing game will be more of a weapon for us this year. Our QB even went to camp at KU this summer! I hope his parents won't be mad when they find out he threw more passes in three days of camp than he is likely to throw all season long.
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Post by raiderpirates on Jun 17, 2008 20:48:19 GMT -6
Smaller hands, work more the center of the ball along the stitches.
Good info on the follow through, you practically have to reverse engineeer the release for most players. The best control accuracy specifics' I've heard or have seen involve the passer's grip and follow through. The video makes certain to address those points.
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Post by airraider on Jun 17, 2008 22:17:34 GMT -6
Smaller hands, work more the center of the ball along the stitches. Good info on the follow through, you practically have to reverse engineeer the release for most players. The best control accuracy specifics' I've heard or have seen involve the passer's grip and follow through. The video makes certain to address those points. Huh??
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 17, 2008 22:33:17 GMT -6
Smaller hands, work more the center of the ball along the stitches. Good info on the follow through, you practically have to reverse engineeer the release for most players. The best control accuracy specifics' I've heard or have seen involve the passer's grip and follow through. The video makes certain to address those points. Huh?? I'll see your Huh?? and raise you 3 HOW'S? Raider--Not really sure if I understand that logic, since smaller hands would have MORE trouble wrapping around the larger circumference of the middle of the ball, than the smaller circumference nearer the points...
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