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Post by briangilbert on Jun 4, 2008 12:11:38 GMT -6
I have yet to have a problem with it because we rotate in footballs and keep the balls dry. The coach I work under now has some concern that we will lose a game if we go out of the gun or if we even run spread in the rain.
Has anyone ever felt they lost a game for running the spread in the rain?
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Post by darebelcoach on Jun 4, 2008 12:19:31 GMT -6
I do not run the spread or a lot of gun, but I have played teams that use that as their offense. I don't see the rain being as much of a problem as WIND. With the rain, as long as you keep the ball dry, you should be alright, because your WRs know the routes they are running and when they have to cut, so they have the advantage over a db in the rain who is trying to react and recover in rain and mud. The wind on the other hand, cna effect a team who is trying to throw the ball all over the field.
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Post by airraider on Jun 4, 2008 13:19:58 GMT -6
I have yet to have a problem with it because we rotate in footballs and keep the balls dry. The coach I work under now has some concern that we will lose a game if we go out of the gun or if we even run spread in the rain. Has anyone ever felt they lost a game for running the spread in the rain? It really doesnt hurt us because we practice it.. This past season.. We played a JV game in a constant slow mist.. was very windy.. but not just pouring.. but was wet.. and kind of cold.. both teams were spread.. we were 5 wide.. they were 4 wide.. we beat them 28-0 for that teams first JV win in over 30 years.. Earlier in the season that same team beat us by like 30.. The difference.. their QB was too focused on the snap and not fumbling.. which he did countless times.. that by the time he secured the ball.. he was looking to run due to the pressure.. We on the other hand passed for nearly 250 yards and 4tds.. It did have its effects on us.. but our kids knew it was mental.. and nothing physcially holding them down.. If you can use some sort of non-slip stuff.. dry hands.. pinetar rags.. then composite balls do not soak up the rain.. leather is better for grip.. but they soak the heck out of water.. We practice twice a week with our QB, Center, and WR's using wet balls.. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 4, 2008 21:18:50 GMT -6
YES
Div 1AA in the NorthEast. 30-35 mph winds gusts up to 50, driving rain... Just all around slop. They were the worst team in the league, we were probably the best (but finished second due to this game...)
We lost 14-9.
--We held them to 2.5 yards a carry rushing on 56 carries (one of the carries was a 51 yard fake punt in which they scored. Take that out and we held them to 1.6 yards a carry )
--They had over 35 minutes of time of possession we had less than 24:30.
-- Our Qb's were 7 for 23 with one INT. There QB's did not complete a pass (0-3, but hey, still NCAA RECORD. .000 completion percentage can't be beat..LOL)
They punted 3 times, we punted 9.
Bottom line, the conditions dictated a different plan, than the standard "Oh, this will bother them more than it bothers us"
Now, will a little rain affect a GOOD disciplined spread team that practices for a little rain like Airriader described? No. But I do believe that conditions can dictate a situation were you need a better plan.
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Post by airraider on Jun 4, 2008 23:06:37 GMT -6
YES Div 1AA in the NorthEast. 30-35 mph winds gusts up to 50, driving rain... Just all around slop. They were the worst team in the league, we were probably the best (but finished second due to this game...) We lost 14-9. --We held them to 2.5 yards a carry rushing on 56 carries (one of the carries was a 51 yard fake punt in which they scored. Take that out and we held them to 1.6 yards a carry ) --They had over 35 minutes of time of possession we had less than 24:30. -- Our Qb's were 7 for 23 with one INT. There QB's did not complete a pass (0-3, but hey, still NCAA RECORD. .000 completion percentage can't be beat..LOL) They punted 3 times, we punted 9. Bottom line, the conditions dictated a different plan, than the standard "Oh, this will bother them more than it bothers us" Now, will a little rain affect a GOOD disciplined spread team that practices for a little rain like Airriader described? No. But I do believe that conditions can dictate a situation were you need a better plan. Of course our game plan will differ based on such conditions.. but we still we be a spread team.. may throw a whole lot more short passes.. a lot more formations and QB runs.. more screens.. Option is still risky.. but only if you do not practice it.. and hey.. the ball is only in the air a short distance.. Just like anything else.. you have to prepare for it.. |
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Post by tedseay on Jun 5, 2008 5:44:15 GMT -6
I have yet to have a problem with it because we rotate in footballs and keep the balls dry. The coach I work under now has some concern that we will lose a game if we go out of the gun or if we even run spread in the rain. Has anyone ever felt they lost a game for running the spread in the rain? From 1906 to 1940, the vast majority of teams in America at all levels ran some variation of direct (shotgun) snap offenses: single wing, short punt, Notre Dame Box, Warner double wing, etc. They played in the rain, the wind and the mud (no artificial surfaces) all the time, and yet you never read about or see film of a direct snap team from that era going under center due to bad weather. I've always felt that a direct snap is a much easier proposition in the rain than an under-center snap and handoff... |
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