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Post by talexander on May 31, 2008 5:01:56 GMT -6
Curious as what your time ratio is offense to defense
Half and Half, 60/40?
What would you do If you had summer ball with no pads. ..most offense, half and half, . . ..
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Post by seagull73 on May 31, 2008 6:53:53 GMT -6
100/100 don't have players go both ways & they can practice their position everyday. Trick is getting a staff good enough to coach them.
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Post by phantom on May 31, 2008 7:30:47 GMT -6
40-40-20 (STs).
We go both ways but we have equal practice time. During 2-a-days we go defense+STs in the morning and offense+STs in the afternoon. In-season it's offense on Tuesday and defense on Wednesday.
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Post by oguru on May 31, 2008 7:50:45 GMT -6
At the high school I coached at it was 80% offense,15% defense which was just vs scout team we never practiced tackilng,and then 5% special teams the day before every game. Some of it may have been because of defensive coordinator was never at practice untl 5:00 as he got transferred schools,and one of the assistant coaches had to drive from the southside of town to the east side of town to pick him up three days a week,and they never got to practice that started at 4:00 and ended at 6:00 until 5:00.He got his car repossed, so he needed a ride eery day.It was a joke,and I felt bad for the guy who had to pick him up,as the entire staff told the head coach that if a grown man can not get to practice he needed to let him go. He refused,and said you pick him up.
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Post by wildcat on May 31, 2008 8:07:30 GMT -6
At the high school I coached at it was 80% offense,15% defense which was just vs scout team we never practiced tackilng,and then 5% special teams the day before every game. Some of it may have been because of defensive coordinator was never at practice untl 5:00 as he got transferred schools,and one of the assistant coaches had to drive from the southside of town to the east side of town to pick him up three days a week,and they never got to practice that started at 4:00 and ended at 6:00 until 5:00.He got his car repossed, so he needed a ride eery day.It was a joke,and I felt bad for the guy who had to pick him up,as the entire staff told the head coach that if a grown man can not get to practice he needed to let him go. He refused,and said you pick him up. Well, at least you aren't bitter about it or anything...  |
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Post by jlt on May 31, 2008 11:43:09 GMT -6
At the start of the year we went 40-40-20. But by the second half of the year our defence was letting in less points than our offence. So we went 70-20-10. And it improved sligtly.
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Post by airman on May 31, 2008 11:49:32 GMT -6
When I platoon it is clearly players are able to be just focused on one side of the ball 100% of the time.
If I cannot platoon my practice format is this
Sunday evening defense/special teams
Monday offense/special team
Tuesday defense/special teams
Wednesday offense/special teams
Thursday o/d/st walk thru
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Post by coachbdud on May 31, 2008 12:36:06 GMT -6
its about 50/50 Monday is all Offense with a lil ST Tuesday is all Defense with a lil ST Wednesday is half Offense, half Defense, and half ST  (jk 1/3 each//0 Thursday is just a walkthrough day |
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Post by talexander on May 31, 2008 15:06:02 GMT -6
I would LOVE to platoon, but we aren't there yet. We have maybe 40 kids, 20-25 realistically that can go out on the field without getting killed.
Thanks for the responses. I think I will go the 50 Def, 50 offense, 50 special teams like coach bud suggested.
Do you have a video on how to get another 50%? You would be a rich man if you did
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Post by jlt on May 31, 2008 15:29:10 GMT -6
Platoon?
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Post by 1bignasty on May 31, 2008 21:06:32 GMT -6
50% O, 50%D, 50% St? is that not 150%. How you going to do that?
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Post by coachbdud on May 31, 2008 21:12:45 GMT -6
50% O, 50%D, 50% St? is that not 150%. How you going to do that? we are just joking |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 1, 2008 1:17:30 GMT -6
jlt--Platooning is having a separate defense and offense, meaning players either play offense OR defense. Generally, this is done at bigger high schools when they have enough quality players to have 22 different starters (11 offense and 11 defense). Teams that platoon usually separate at practice, meaning the Defense practices by itself (with the backups on offense running scout team) and the Offense practices by itself (with the backups on defense running the scout team). |
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Post by ramsoc on Jun 1, 2008 2:26:51 GMT -6
In the summer without pads we are probably 75/25 Offense. I can only do so much with the defense without having them hit. I can only have my backers work their reads, drop into coverage and run 7 on for so long before they lose their minds. But we can run over plays for hours. Besides, if we get the offense taken care of in the summer, the in season week practice time can be devoted to the opponents offense/our defense.
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Post by davecisar on Jun 1, 2008 8:12:29 GMT -6
Youth level-
45-45-10
But most of the teams I watch practice are more like:
80 offense
15 defense
5 ST
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 1, 2008 9:28:22 GMT -6
In the summer without pads we are probably 75/25 Offense. I can only do so much with the defense without having them hit. I can only have my backers work their reads, drop into coverage and run 7 on for so long before they lose their minds. But we can run over plays for hours. Besides, if we get the offense taken care of in the summer, the in season week practice time can be devoted to the opponents offense/our defense. Do you run the offense against dummies? If you have hand shields, you can do a very similar thing with the D, including "tackling" on the hand shield. Second question--if you do run against dummy's on "O" are you worried that the team might be impaired by running against stationary targets. |
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Post by coachorr on Jun 1, 2008 10:01:40 GMT -6
"We don't have any 12 pound bags on the schedule."
Special Teams 30 min, Offensive Indy 30 min, Defensive Indy 30 min, Specialty period 10-20 min. (inside run, goal line, Pass under Pressure or something of that nature) Defensive Skelly 20 min. Offensive skelly 10 Min, Defensive Team 15 min. Offensive Team 25 min.
If we can platoon we save about 30 to 45 min on the total of three hours. If cannot platoon, we may eliminate one of the Individual periods, or we may shorten one of them on one day. Usually the defense gets the short end of the stick when we do that, however.
Monday: 20 min Offensive Indy 15 min Defensive
Tuesday:15 min Offensive Indy 20 min. Defensive
Wednesday 20 min Offensive Indy 15 min Defensive
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Post by morris on Jun 2, 2008 5:33:36 GMT -6
We can almost platoon completely so we almost go 100% O/D everyday. We go 1s vs 1s all the time though. So on certain days or periods we will not be running our defense or offense (mainly just change the formations we will see but past that it is mainly our offense). Made a big difference with 1s vs 1s all the time.
The few guys we do have go both ways need little work on one side of the ball or the other.
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Post by rideanddecide on Jun 2, 2008 6:31:39 GMT -6
Monday: Very hard for us to do too much this day because we need to use juniors to fill out our JV squad. We are in great shape if we have 22 bodies on a Monday.
85 Minutes Offense (10-Fix major Friday mistakes, 20 blocking circuit, 10 indy, 10 group, 10 1/2 line, 10 skelly, 15 team)
45 Minutes Defense (10 tackling progression, 20 indy, 15 team)
Tuesday:
90 Minutes Defense (25 Indy, 20 tackling circuit, 10 pursuit, 20 group, 15 team)
45 Minutes Offense (10 group, 15 team, 10 situation, possibly offensive pursuit)
15 Minutes ST
Wed:
85 Minutes Offense (25 indy, 20 blocking circuit, 10 off. pursuit, 10 group, 20 team)
40 Minutes Defense (20 group, 20 team)
15 Minutes ST
Thursday Walkthrough.
Why lopsided to the offense?
We run option and we believe that takes time.
During special teams all the athletes that aren't on the team go to indy.
So if we are running kickoff and kick return and you aren't on either team, then you are at indy defense or offense.
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Post by realdawg on Jun 2, 2008 8:55:57 GMT -6
On paper we give O and D equal amount of time each day (60min). However, it is a running joke (well its not a joke b/c its true) about house our HC lets the D run over 10 min every day then takes that time off of O so we can "stay on schedule"LOL
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Post by kakavian on Jun 4, 2008 8:15:03 GMT -6
rdawg-
Well consider yourself lucky, usually its the other way around. Our HC would let the O run for ten to twenty minutes past the scheduled time, and we were lucky sometimes to get fifteen minutes per practice for Defense...and that INCLUDED individual time.
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Post by spreadbone on Jun 9, 2008 11:15:28 GMT -6
its about 50/50 Monday is all Offense with a lil ST Tuesday is all Defense with a lil ST Wednesday is half Offense, half Defense, and half ST (jk 1/3 each//0 Thursday is just a walkthrough day For those of you who do it this way, what is the JV doing at this time? How many coaches do you have? |
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Post by spreadbone on Jun 12, 2008 7:20:47 GMT -6
bump
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Post by kurtbryan on Jun 12, 2008 18:26:56 GMT -6
Roughly our practice % breakdown between O & D and ST:
50 % Offense
40 % Defense
10% Special Teams
KB
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Post by coachdawhip on Jun 30, 2008 13:01:03 GMT -6
I believe that it takes more for an offense to get ready than a defense, because of this I say an hour a day on offense and hopefully the same amount of time on defense and at least 20 minutes for special teams.
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Post by pantherfb10 on Jun 30, 2008 14:09:32 GMT -6
50-50 practice each for abt 50 min with starting o vs scout team1 and starting d vs scout team2. we also do about 15 min of 10 perfect plays with all 3 strings on air. then 15 min position drills before hand and a situation at the end of each practice. we run hurry up sometimes in practice cause we need plays repped with 12 formations and 190 plays
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(jk 1/3 each//0
