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Post by cmow5 on May 18, 2008 21:51:17 GMT -6
After reading caseyd123 thread about his times I was really impressed that a player was on this site trying to further their football IQ.
First I want to know if there is any other players on this site?
and second do you coaches like that players are on this site?
I guess I mean would you like your players on this site?
I can see the positive is they are willing to do what it takes to be a football player and learn the game. Since football is 90% mental I love that they are here.
I can see the negative is they are learning different things from different coaches that might not be how you want them to do things. Not saying the other coaches are right or wrong, but we all teach things a little different.
I say the positives out weigh the negatives and I would love to have my players that dedicated to be on this site.
What do you guys think?
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Fridge
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Post by Fridge on May 19, 2008 2:56:40 GMT -6
I tell every one that there are many ways to do it. But as long as I am the actual Coach, it must be done my way.
I even sometimes tell my players how others do it, just for them to see, that there is not only "one right way" in football.
So all in all, I would love to see many players here, who - perhaps - can give some useful hints as well from a player´s perspective... (e.g. the "what changed their mentality"-thread.
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Post by tog on May 19, 2008 5:24:07 GMT -6
Generally we don't mind it. Players and non/coaches need to know their place however. This is an open and free board for people to read. However it is geared towards coaches. If non-coaches and or players start to speak more than they listen it will be addressed. An occasional post by a player or non-coach is fine if it is football related or they simply want an answer to a legitimate question. We just do not want this board turning into a fan board or a players get on here and talk smack to each other board. There are other places for that stuff. This is not one of them.
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Post by nickknx865 on May 20, 2008 13:49:27 GMT -6
Well, I'm a player/aspiring coach.
Over the past month or so, I've already learned so much on here it's crazy.
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Post by justryn2 on May 20, 2008 14:25:16 GMT -6
Honestly, I think its great to see players here, under the conditions expressed by tog. It is a great place to learn football. I've coached in youth leagues for 8 years and I've learned an incredible amount on this board in just a few months. If players come here to learn football, even if they do see that different coaches have different opinions, it can only make them better players in the long run.
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Post by rideanddecide on May 20, 2008 14:53:24 GMT -6
Does it change if your players know your screen name on here? Does it affect any of their faith in you if they see you asking other coaches how they do things? Or other coaches shooting down your ideas?
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Post by burtledog on May 20, 2008 14:58:51 GMT -6
As a fan who likes to talk big, I appreciate you all's patience and openess to someone who may never coach, but enjoys the x's and o's. Greg
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Post by phantom on May 20, 2008 15:04:23 GMT -6
Does it change if your players know your screen name on here? Does it affect any of their faith in you if they see you asking other coaches how they do things? Or other coaches shooting down your ideas? Why would it? Asking questions just means that you're trying to learn more football. Not every idea is a good idea. If you've never had an idea shot down then you've never had an idea. We take stuff out of the game plan all the time. That's an idea that was shot down.
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Post by cqmiller on May 20, 2008 15:11:43 GMT -6
I wish a couple of my kids would get on here and ask a few ?'s or maybe even take some notes on a particular technique or scheme... Just because I don't use the terminology another coach uses, maybe one of my LB's will read someone else's terminology that is talking about the same technique, and make it "click" for them.
When I was in school, (not too long ago), I was in the coach's office before/during/after school drawing up diagrams, and asking ?'s like, "what if this..." or "then we do what...?". Part of the problems I have found many coaches run into (especially at programs like the one I'm at that haven't had any success in the past and have no expectations) are the fact that the players think about football for maybe 3/4 of the time at practice, and that's it... no "extra-stuff" that actually makes them grow exponentially as a player.
I had a couple of kids last year who came up to me and asked if I had ever heard of USC before, then when I said yes, they asked if they were good...!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I coach in CALIFORNIA, and many of them had never even heard of USC... trying to change that up...
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Post by cmow5 on May 20, 2008 17:21:09 GMT -6
I had a couple of kids last year who came up to me and asked if I had ever heard of USC before, then when I said yes, they asked if they were good...!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I coach in CALIFORNIA, and many of them had never even heard of USC... trying to change that up... Last year we put up little quotes through out the locker room and told the kids they needed to look at it and memorize it. We put a quote from Vince Lombardi up and NONE of the kids knew who he was. I was speechless.
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Post by airraider on May 20, 2008 17:26:30 GMT -6
I had one of my players sign up about this time last year to get on the white board with me so that I could go over our offense.. was one of my QB's as a matter of fact..
Caught MAJOR hell by several coaches on the subject..
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Post by Coach Huey on May 21, 2008 7:55:27 GMT -6
The site was initiated as a resource forum for high school football coaches. It has taken on other avenues ... good, bad, or whatever.
That's all I have to say about that ... for now.
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Post by rideanddecide on May 21, 2008 7:59:49 GMT -6
Does it change if your players know your screen name on here? Does it affect any of their faith in you if they see you asking other coaches how they do things? Or other coaches shooting down your ideas? Why would it? Asking questions just means that you're trying to learn more football. Not every idea is a good idea. If you've never had an idea shot down then you've never had an idea. We take stuff out of the game plan all the time. That's an idea that was shot down. Just asking. I don't know the answer really, probably depends on the kid. I just know that many kids take their coaches word as gold and I don't really know how that would be affected if they were schooled in other avenues of doing things.
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Post by craines10 on Jun 16, 2008 15:23:14 GMT -6
Being in my mid 20's, I have learned plenty on this board. If this site was available back when I was in high school I definitely would have been on it just to see what people around the country are saying and doing. Moving on to what cqmiller said about USC, I know the feeling. I asked a player about Lawrence Taylor last season and he told me he didnt even watch college football. very few athletes are students of the game nowadys, they are extremely physically gifted and are satisfied with that. I always preach football IQ. that is what my coaches did for me.
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Post by givepullorpitch on Jun 21, 2008 21:21:00 GMT -6
My son, a college player and aspiring coach has been on this board for almost two years now. I am a coach of 29 years and he has grown up in the coaches office. He has learned a lot of football while interacting on this board. He also came into this board knowing a lot of ball. In fact he has been posting a little as a coach and I will wager a great deal of money you can't spot him as a player. It has been enjoyable watching his knowledge grow. I also bet you would hire him when he graduates.
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