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Post by mwpilots on May 6, 2008 12:16:26 GMT -6
I am getting an HC job at a small HS very soon. It is May and the season starts in a couple of months. I'd like to run Wishbone with counters,powers,bellys,etc. How much of this should I expect to be able to put in by the season?
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Post by dubber on May 6, 2008 13:50:41 GMT -6
as much as the kids seem to handle.
Start with the bread and butter (say, Belly), and then add once you feel comfortable with the level of execution
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Post by dubber on May 6, 2008 13:51:21 GMT -6
BTW, if they "don't get it", don't move on.
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Post by touchdowng on May 6, 2008 18:21:05 GMT -6
Are you just running the power, counter stuff or are you planning at looking at some option?
If you run the true triple option, plan on about 50% of your offensive practice time being committed to this. This would help you in deciding how much offense.
If you are not going to run any triple, do what one of the posts recommended - as much as the kids can handle.
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Post by coachcastleman on May 6, 2008 19:55:03 GMT -6
I was in the same situation last year. I got the head coaching job at a small school that had been a spread team. We get 25 days of "contact" in the summer, so most of my offense was in before the official start of season. We ran wishbone/flexbone the kids caught on quick. We tried to not put in more than one play a day. Make sure to coach the details and don't just try to get everything in before the game. I agree with the above, don't move on until they get it.
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Post by mwpilots on May 7, 2008 6:51:27 GMT -6
Are you just running the power, counter stuff or are you planning at looking at some option? If you run the true triple option, plan on about 50% of your offensive practice time being committed to this. This would help you in deciding how much offense. If you are not going to run any triple, do what one of the posts recommended - as much as the kids can handle. I would like to get to run some veer triple option to the weak side, but I understand the amount of time that you need to put it in properly.I am thinking that I will introduce triple option slowly and probably will not run it in a game until we perfect it. I am dealing with kids who I don't think have any exposure to wishbone or triple option football. I know they are athletic enough to pull it off ,its just getting their knowledge up to that level. I think a lot of these kids see "spread offenses" and they think that is what football is. I am not saying that I am totally against all "spread" offenses, but I think can get it done with the wishbone and/or split back veer. |
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Post by tedseay on May 8, 2008 10:46:55 GMT -6
Coach: Go with the Barta Bone! Wishbone is a great platform for power and misdirection a la Smith Center in Kansas.
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Post by mwpilots on May 8, 2008 15:06:22 GMT -6
What is the "Barta Bone"? I may already know it by a different name.
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Post by tedseay on May 9, 2008 4:47:58 GMT -6
What is the "Barta Bone"? I may already know it by a different name. Coach: It's the version of the wishbone offense that Coach Roger Barta has been running at Smith Center for many years now -- based almost entirely on the Inside (Double Dive) and Outside (Wing-T) Belly series. His son Brooks runs a similar offense at Holton HS, although he's added a fast-flow option series to the mix. It's great football. |
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Post by catz1 on May 9, 2008 4:56:22 GMT -6
What is the "Barta Bone"? I may already know it by a different name. Coach: It's the version of the wishbone offense that Coach Roger Barta has been running at Smith Center for many years now -- based almost entirely on the Inside (Double Dive) and Outside (Wing-T) Belly series. His son Brooks runs a similar offense at Holton HS, although he's added a fast-flow option series to the mix. It's great football. Coach... I'm interested in learning more about the Barta Bone. Our HFC successfully ran a small Wishbone package last year as a changeup. We are wing-T based however, so I'd like to see if we can be really efficient in our concepts. Any info or suggestions would be great. Thx. |
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Post by dacoachmo on May 11, 2008 12:12:26 GMT -6
if your are at small school, then start with veer and build on that. If you truly have athletes this would be a devastating and multifaceted play! I would lean more to split back or flex-bone set. Wishbone is a great formation, however the defense has less gaps to defend and three backs lined up 3 or more yards deep in the backfield.
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Post by tedseay on May 12, 2008 3:58:35 GMT -6
Coach: It's the version of the wishbone offense that Coach Roger Barta has been running at Smith Center for many years now -- based almost entirely on the Inside (Double Dive) and Outside (Wing-T) Belly series. His son Brooks runs a similar offense at Holton HS, although he's added a fast-flow option series to the mix. It's great football. Coach... I'm interested in learning more about the Barta Bone. Our HFC successfully ran a small Wishbone package last year as a changeup. We are wing-T based however, so I'd like to see if we can be really efficient in our concepts. Any info or suggestions would be great. Thx. Coach: Check your e-mail. As you will see, the Barta Bone 20 series is pure Wing-T (Outside) Belly, and should be easily adapted to your system. The 10 series is Inside Belly, a.k.a. Double Dive, which is also pretty straightforward for most Wing-T teams to adopt. |
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Post by catz1 on May 12, 2008 4:48:11 GMT -6
Coach... I'm interested in learning more about the Barta Bone. Our HFC successfully ran a small Wishbone package last year as a changeup. We are wing-T based however, so I'd like to see if we can be really efficient in our concepts. Any info or suggestions would be great. Thx. Coach: Check your e-mail. As you will see, the Barta Bone 20 series is pure Wing-T (Outside) Belly, and should be easily adapted to your system. The 10 series is Inside Belly, a.k.a. Double Dive, which is also pretty straightforward for most Wing-T teams to adopt. Got it... thanks Coach. I really want our package simple... with minimal new learning over the wing-T as it is a change-up for us. This looks like it could fit the bill. |
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