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Post by airman on Apr 24, 2008 14:07:46 GMT -6
Currently I am working on my masters degree plus I am adding a certification.
I have two offers on the table right now to coach.
offer 1 is a college assistant, not a full time assistant but still it pays me some money. they want me to work with the wr. it is a d3 school and usually has a 500 record annually. they are making strides to get better. they have had some transition in their head coaching position but have finally hired a guy who has been at the school for a decade now as an assistant. they run a multiple offense and like to throw the ball a lot. he would give me a lot of freedom to coach the wr the way I want. currently have have a 21 year old coaching the wr who was a player but is nolonger a player.
offer 2 is a high school program with a veteran coach who is very successful and has been to state championship games. he runs a solid program and has a outstanding offseason program. he would be a great guy to learn from. they are a run based team. he would like me to coach the wr and tight ends even though they throw a max of 10 times per game. the position is a volunteer position. i do what he says, the way he says and how he says.
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Post by carson101 on Apr 24, 2008 14:21:08 GMT -6
take the college gig, oprns the door for bigger opportunities wish i had the offer. good luck
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Post by kurtbryan on Apr 24, 2008 14:23:42 GMT -6
Take the college job if you want to move up eventually, there are always solid opportunities available at the high school level for top notch coaches, but collegiate jobs are harder to find at any level and will broaden your network.
Plus, you like to air it out a lot and you will be biting your lip on Friday nights if you go the mentioned H.S. route, respectfully.
KB
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Post by midsfan on Apr 24, 2008 14:24:44 GMT -6
I would go with the college gig. You will learn a lot more sophisticated schemes and techniques. You can always dumb it down if you get into high school. I was in the same boat about 2 months ago. I had an offer to OLine Coach at a 4a school, an offensive coordinator job at another 4a school, and OLine job at a D3 school. I took the College job and went through spring with them and I have learned a ton in a matter of 15 practices.
Not to get on a preachers' kick, but Pray about it. Put it in God's hands. Which ever one he sticks in your head, go with it. You got to look at what is best for you.
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Post by gunslinger on Apr 24, 2008 14:54:53 GMT -6
One word of advice that I always give the guys that I coached that have gone into coaching...start at the level that you want to end at.
You want to be a college coach, start there. You want to be a Head Coach at a big high school, start coaching at that level.
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Post by brophy on Apr 24, 2008 15:27:47 GMT -6
you can't get a GA deal to help subsidize the Masters?
College.....you will get exposure to practice methodologies and motivating different athletes like no other HS experience.
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Post by Yash on Apr 24, 2008 17:53:56 GMT -6
Most people are going to tell you to take the college gig. I'm going to tell you to go where you want to coach in the long run. I took a college gig last year as a student coach and while I liked the guys and the staff I just couldn't promise them the time that they needed me to to stay on staff year round. I didn't want to coach college ball in the long run. The season is too long, i hate recruiting because I hate telling a kid no. I am back to coaching high school this year and I think I'll enjoy it much more. Its all about what level you want to coach.
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Post by brophy on Apr 24, 2008 18:28:26 GMT -6
make a list....and see how it comes out for your best interest  It worked for me. |
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Post by jjkuenzel on Apr 24, 2008 21:21:43 GMT -6
If I were you I would take the college job. They are pretty hard to come by. HS jobs are a dime a dozen. And if you don't want the college job, let me know and I will take it.
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Post by airman on Apr 25, 2008 14:02:52 GMT -6
Thanks for your opinions. I have been a head h.s. coach and oc at two places. I have never coached college football. IT is not like the college offer is a real coaching position. It pays more then I ever made as a high school coach and really is just a position coach. Since it is D3 there are no GA positions at all. not sure I would want to be a GA at a 1a or aa program. those guys get used to do crap work.
I know a guy who was a GA at a major college football progam in wisconsin. He spent two years getting coffee for all coaches, picking up dry cleaning for head coach and oc, driving recruits to and from the airport, washing the head coaches car and then he got to watch from the sidelines and breakdown film after all the coaches left. get his tendency charts to the coaches of the film he watched.
He likened it to being the geek at school who wrote papers for the jocks. he did every thing for the coaches but really coach. oh, he did summer camps. the d1 kids they were recruiting got to go with the staff and the other kids, well the GA's got them. hard to coach when it is 50 to 1 numbers.
I would rather work at d3 where you have a responsibility.
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Post by midlineqb on Apr 25, 2008 15:19:39 GMT -6
Airman,
From what I know of you I don't think you would truly be happy in the HS where they throw maybe 10 times per game. You are a passing game guru and they that is where I think you would be the happiest (D-III) school. Consider what you would be happiest with and which would be the most advantageous for yourself.
Buddy Taylor
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Post by airman on Apr 25, 2008 15:49:31 GMT -6
Airman, From what I know of you I don't think you would truly be happy in the HS where they throw maybe 10 times per game. You are a passing game guru and they that is where I think you would be the happiest (D-III) school. Consider what you would be happiest with and which would be the most advantageous for yourself. Buddy Taylor Thanks Buddy for you input. |
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Post by coachnichols on Apr 27, 2008 20:28:38 GMT -6
I have two offers on the table right now to coach. offer 1 is a college assistant, not a full time assistant but still it pays me some money. they want me to work with the wr. it is a d3 school and usually has a 500 record annually. offer 2 is a high school program with a veteran coach who is very successful and has been to state championship games. i do what he says, the way he says and how he says. What are your future plans? Where do you want to be 5 years from now? I would take the college job for the same reason jjkuenzel said, they are not a dime a dozen. You can always find a HS job, but college jobs seem to be a little more scarce. The D3 job sound interesting and could definitely grow into something more very quickly I would guess. The high school position/situation you mention makes me leary. Around here, HS coaches that should get fired don't usually, so guys with that kind of resume probably would never get fired. This guy is probably under no pressure to adapt or change his schemes, no pressure to add great coaches, especially if he can get them to coach the "lesser" positions (in his offense) for "free." I don't know...it just makes me leary for you. If you were a young kid starting out I'd say college job, no brainer! If you were looking to become a HS head coach soon, I'd say HS job, no brainer. I assume from you're post you're not a young kid and you've been a head coach, so...I'd say take the college job. It seems like a better situation, a more rewarding situation for you personally, it might have more potential to grow into a better/bigger position, and college jobs are rare compared to high school positions, My two cents... |
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Post by gacoach on Apr 28, 2008 12:13:39 GMT -6
Your name is "airman", so take the college job because of the ability to show what you can do. I also began my career coaching at a DIII college and now 2 of those guys I coached with Mike Emendorfer, HC at Wisc-Platteville and Patrick Higgins, WR coach at BYU I still keep in touch with.
I chose to go "down" to the HS level and have regrets.
Now, if your name was "runman"........
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Post by Coach Huey on Apr 28, 2008 21:14:48 GMT -6
do the college gig. d3 in WI is NOT like most d3's ... it's a special situation there so i would take it. wiac is alot like d2's or d1AA in most places. high school will be there when you feel the need to "go back"
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Post by safetycoach34 on Apr 29, 2008 11:59:57 GMT -6
do the college gig. d3 in WI is NOT like most d3's ... it's a special situation there so i would take it. wiac is alot like d2's or d1AA in most places. high school will be there when you feel the need to "go back" I just got an Intern position at a school in Wisconsin was wondering what the football was like up there? I am from ohio so i am not at all familiar to Div. III football in Wisconsin. Only school i had heard of before i got this position was Wis. Whitewater cause i had a buddy who coached there. Thanks for any info |
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Post by phantom on Apr 29, 2008 14:38:19 GMT -6
Currently I am working on my masters degree plus I am adding a certification. I have two offers on the table right now to coach. offer 1 is a college assistant, not a full time assistant but still it pays me some money. they want me to work with the wr. it is a d3 school and usually has a 500 record annually. they are making strides to get better. they have had some transition in their head coaching position but have finally hired a guy who has been at the school for a decade now as an assistant. they run a multiple offense and like to throw the ball a lot. he would give me a lot of freedom to coach the wr the way I want. currently have have a 21 year old coaching the wr who was a player but is nolonger a player. offer 2 is a high school program with a veteran coach who is very successful and has been to state championship games. he runs a solid program and has a outstanding offseason program. he would be a great guy to learn from. they are a run based team. he would like me to coach the wr and tight ends even though they throw a max of 10 times per game. the position is a volunteer position. i do what he says, the way he says and how he says. Hmm, let me think. Get paid to coach my way in a system I like or volunteer to do it somebody else's way in a system I hate? |
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Post by gunrun on Apr 30, 2008 5:45:17 GMT -6
Currently I am working on my masters degree plus I am adding a certification. I have two offers on the table right now to coach. offer 1 is a college assistant, not a full time assistant but still it pays me some money. they want me to work with the wr. it is a d3 school and usually has a 500 record annually. they are making strides to get better. they have had some transition in their head coaching position but have finally hired a guy who has been at the school for a decade now as an assistant. they run a multiple offense and like to throw the ball a lot. he would give me a lot of freedom to coach the wr the way I want. currently have have a 21 year old coaching the wr who was a player but is nolonger a player. offer 2 is a high school program with a veteran coach who is very successful and has been to state championship games. he runs a solid program and has a outstanding offseason program. he would be a great guy to learn from. they are a run based team. he would like me to coach the wr and tight ends even though they throw a max of 10 times per game. the position is a volunteer position. i do what he says, the way he says and how he says. Hmm, let me think. Get paid to coach my way in a system I like or volunteer to do it somebody else's way in a system I hate? Phantom, I think you nailed it. |
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