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Post by trojan on Apr 20, 2008 8:24:52 GMT -6
We run a Wing-T, but I would guess that this could apply to most offenses.
I have had the TE trade from one side to the other to get a numbers advantage, like everyone else. For example, we'll run bucksweep to the right on "set" after the TE has traded from the left to the right. If they don't adjust, we have that advantage.
I would like to have two plays called. If they don't adjust, run to the side with the extra man. If they do adjust, then I'd like to hit the backside with a quick toss. In either case, I hope to get the play going immediately after the TE is set (after he is set for one second).
I'd like the QB to make the choice, but I'm concerned about how this will all play out. Assuming the QB makes a sound decision, it will have to be a very quick call to take advantage of the trade.
I'd like opinions on how to make the initial play call, how you would have the QB let the players know (keyword or phrase), and whether or not I should be worried about how my players will react to a split-second call.
Your opinions, advice, and experiences are welcome!
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Post by phantom on Apr 20, 2008 8:41:47 GMT -6
We run a Wing-T, but I would guess that this could apply to most offenses. I have had the TE trade from one side to the other to get a numbers advantage, like everyone else. For example, we'll run bucksweep to the right on "set" after the TE has traded from the left to the right. If they don't adjust, we have that advantage. I would like to have two plays called. If they don't adjust, run to the side with the extra man. If they do adjust, then I'd like to hit the backside with a quick toss. In either case, I hope to get the play going immediately after the TE is set (after he is set for one second). I'd like the QB to make the choice, but I'm concerned about how this will all play out. Assuming the QB makes a sound decision, it will have to be a very quick call to take advantage of the trade. I'd like opinions on how to make the initial play call, how you would have the QB let the players know (keyword or phrase), and whether or not I should be worried about how my players will react to a split-second call. Your opinions, advice, and experiences are welcome! I'll chime in from a defensive standpoint. If we're in an odd (1 safety) coverage and you trade we don't care. We'll widen the 5 tech to a gap technique and stack Will behind him just like we would if we had a weakside TE. If we're in an even (2-safety) coverage we'll run Sam over to even up the numbers. It doesn't matter if he's late because he's not the force. |
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Post by gunslinger on Apr 20, 2008 14:51:16 GMT -6
You're basically doing a "check with me" audible.
Call out the package/shift, followed by "check with me."
Give the QB a concise progression to check, and a number or code for each play.
Example- even vs. odd/brown vs. black/R words vs. L words, etc.
So...say you called this package "shift" and you went with a color code...any color except Orange and you run toward the shift..O for opposite.
The QB calls "Shift Check with Me." If the players hear anything except Orange they run the play toward the shift...they hear orange, they go with the play to the opposite side.
One of my most productive run packages was a tackle over set with twins to that side and an offset I- QB under center- that we simple called "over right/left."
If we went "over check with me" we would run a sweep or an off tackle power play based on one defender's reaction to the formation.
The QB just checked that one player then made the call...simple...effective.
Of course, we had other counter plays in that we could call to attack defensive adjustments (play action, reverse, end around, run weak, etc.) but we didn't burden the QB with this.
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Post by trojan on Apr 21, 2008 5:49:36 GMT -6
Phantom: Thank you for the defensive viewpoint. About half the time, we see teams that will flop DEs & DTs, but more often LBs. Of course the other half, they don't flop them.
Gunslinger: Holy extended response, Batman! Great advice. Thanks.
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Post by spartancoach on Apr 23, 2008 12:29:53 GMT -6
Not really answering the question (agree with gunslinger), but TE trade has been great for us. Most teams we face simply widen the DE on the "new" TE side and leave the DT in a 1 tech leaving a great bubble for iso, belly, etc.
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Post by trojan on Apr 24, 2008 6:03:34 GMT -6
Most teams we face simply widen the DE on the "new" TE side and leave the DT in a 1 tech leaving a great bubble for iso, belly, etc. Good point. On my level (7th grade) it even more likely to see that bubble. |
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