stx
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Post by stx on Feb 7, 2008 7:47:26 GMT -6
What do you guys think of a camp to just introduce the basics of football for those going into their first year of football? It'd be really cheap, like $15-25 for five or six days consisting of one to one and a half hour sessions. Also, we'd play razzle-dazzle (http://www.d230.org/cs/sheehan/pe/razzle.htm) and other games, perhaps a little flag football. We'd introduce the basic principles of the game and some basic techniques like blocking and perhaps a little block shedding; probably tackling in there too. What do you think? Good idea/bad idea? One problem I know we will run into is baseball and scheduling  |
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Post by coachdoug on Feb 7, 2008 12:04:27 GMT -6
On the surface, it sounds like a fine idea, but it I guess it really depends on what your real motives are and what your local rules are.
In our league, if a program put something like this together, it would be considered illegal practice, unless several criteria were met:
- The camp would have to be open to and advertised to kids from all over the geographical territory of the league. i.e. You couldn't have the camp just for your own players.
- The camp would have to carry its own liability insurance. This is probably the most important requirement, and the hardest to comply with, especially if you want to keep the cost down.
- The camp should not be run exclusively by coaches from your own program.
- The camp should not include installing your team's plays or anything like that - anything that looks, feels, or smells like your team's regular football practice.
A couple years ago, a coach in our program actually did something like this - he put together an offseason (June - July, I believe) conditioning camp, and the league initially opposed, but when he complied with the requirements I outlined above, he held his camp. I believe it was pretty successful.
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stx
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Post by stx on Feb 7, 2008 12:15:34 GMT -6
It will be open to everyone and you don't think a "shotgun" legal disclaimer signed by the parents is enough, included would be instructions to getting a physical first, instead of getting insurance?
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Post by coachdoug on Feb 7, 2008 12:26:50 GMT -6
I have no idea what would be enough in your league. Check with your program's president first, and then he can go to your league's commissioner if he doesn't know the answer. I'm sure the rules vary greatly from league to league.
What you're planning may be fine in your league, but you'd have to jump through some hoops in our league. I didn't mean to imply that you were doing anything wrong, just that you should check with the approriate authorities so you don't get yourself in trouble.
I hope it works out for you and you have a great camp. I think it sounds like fun.
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Post by davecisar on Feb 8, 2008 6:44:10 GMT -6
Ive done a buch of these, one day ones with NFL types and speakers and 7 weeks one day a week format.
We do ours without pads, the liability deal is handeled with waivers.
Our league has no rules on practice amount or when we start.
We do 30 minutes of football skill development,
30 Minutes of Plyos and speed/quickness development,
30 minutes of fun "game time" stuff like Hawiian rules football, deer hunter, towel game/tug of war etc.
This may not sound like much but for your rookie kids, it's going to save you a ton of time your first week of fall practice.
Make sure and make it FUN and varied so the kids keep coming back. You can teach a ton without going full contact and putting pads on.
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Post by morris on Feb 8, 2008 8:29:53 GMT -6
I think it is a good idea. It helps develop kids with more 1 on 1 type and you do nto feel as rushed to "get things in"
Now as far as illegal practice goes we start in March with 2 days a week then have a period of 2 weeks that ends in a scrimage. We also take our kids to the local 5 day NFL camp. This has paid off a good deal the last 2-3 years
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Post by bpj on Feb 8, 2008 8:58:40 GMT -6
Every summer, we hold a two day camp like this up at our high school. It is open to anyone and we wind up having almost 200 kids show up. Because Univ of TX is here in Austin, we typically have a few UT players come and give some talks and help out with the camp. Along with teaching the kids some fundamentals, we run position specific drills and play a lot of fun games. It really gets the kids charged up for the upcoming season!
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Post by coachcalande on Feb 8, 2008 10:13:51 GMT -6
I did mini camps for ms kids, basic skills and drills, evaluation and testing , touch football games. No conditioning beyond the benefits of the activities we did. They loved it, never had fewer than 50 boys turn out. completely free and I didnt see any reason to charge the kids for it.
Our youth coach at another school did the same thing.
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