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Post by airraider on Jun 14, 2007 11:13:59 GMT -6
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Post by phantom on Jun 14, 2007 13:34:53 GMT -6
How many coaches out there are like me in that they don't particularly like many football movies or TV shows ?
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 14, 2007 13:38:55 GMT -6
TV shows have never gotten it right. Movies - I don't know. I have to like them for reasons other than that they are about football. Otherwise, I'll just watch an actual football game.
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Post by brophy on Jun 14, 2007 13:45:10 GMT -6
pretty sad that I've seen ALL but 3 of them....... Football is the probably the only thing I can relate to, so from a movie/story perspective it is about the ONLY thing I can follow? "Harry Potter", "Lord of the Rings"........I'm friggin' lost.....all I see is a bunch of guys that would never play for me....I haven't even SEEN those movies...
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Post by phantom on Jun 14, 2007 14:10:39 GMT -6
TV shows have never gotten it right. Movies - I don't know. I have to like them for reasons other than that they are about football. Otherwise, I'll just watch an actual football game. I find myself watching and saying, "Well, that's just stupid". I hear the same thing from people in other jobs about TV/movies about their areas. I find myself asking stuff like, "Three coaches on the staff? Good luck there." and " Oh, they're behind with one play left and they're going to pass? Wow! You must be Buddy Ryan".
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 14, 2007 14:18:42 GMT -6
Phantom--I am with you... don't like them much at all, because they rarely paint a very good picture of the organizational behavior, YET, most parents and fans think they are spot on accurate.
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Post by phantom on Jun 14, 2007 14:33:55 GMT -6
There you go. The stereotypes drive me nuts. Coaches are totally single-minded and usually kind of stupid. Players are not "kind of", they're stupid and some are homicidally crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 14:48:43 GMT -6
I didn't see "Gus the Field Goal Kicking Mule" on that list. What's wrong with that?
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Post by spartancoach on Jun 14, 2007 14:59:54 GMT -6
Or "Johnny Be Good"
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Post by wingman on Jun 14, 2007 15:09:52 GMT -6
Taken with a grain of salt, I'd vote Friday Night Lights # 1, Remember the Titans # 2, and Waterboy # 3.
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Post by wingman on Jun 14, 2007 15:11:06 GMT -6
I do like the fact that in "All the Right Moves" they call the same defense every play, '6 2 STACK MONSTER!"
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Post by tiger46 on Jun 14, 2007 15:18:20 GMT -6
I do like the fact that in "All the Right Moves" they call the same defense every play, '6 2 STACK MONSTER!" I gotta admit, it's a pretty versatile defense. ;D
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Post by kcbazooka on Jun 14, 2007 15:33:22 GMT -6
Phantom - agreed - the coaches always seem to be evil or dumb. I did like Evening Shade on TV. And how many will confess to remembering the classic H.O.T.S. movie - outstanding documentary on touch football. Best football scene in a non football movie - M*A*S*H
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Post by phantom on Jun 14, 2007 15:47:28 GMT -6
Phantom - agreed - the coaches always seem to be evil or dumb. I did like Evening Shade on TV. And how many will confess to remembering the classic H.O.T.S. movie - outstanding documentary on touch football. Best football scene in a non football movie - M*A*S*H I did like Evening Shade. I never saw H.O.T.S. but I agree that the football scenes in M*A*S*H* were great.
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Post by midlineqb on Jun 14, 2007 16:06:40 GMT -6
I find myself watching and saying, "Well, that's just stupid". I hear the same thing from people in other jobs about TV/movies about their areas. I find myself asking stuff like, "[glow=red,2,300]Three coaches on the staff? Good luck there.[/glow]" and " Oh, they're behind with one play left and they're going to pass? Wow! You must be Buddy Ryan". [/quote]
Phantom, don't knock the 3 coaches on the staff! When I first started I'd have given my left one for another coach. It was just me and the basketball coach and had 40 kids out. We won almost 60% of our games in the 7 years I was there. We really had to work and be organized in order to accomplish what we needed to do. I know this got away from the topic, but felt I needed to respond.
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Post by phantom on Jun 14, 2007 16:18:37 GMT -6
I find myself watching and saying, "Well, that's just stupid". I hear the same thing from people in other jobs about TV/movies about their areas. I find myself asking stuff like, "[glow=red,2,300]Three coaches on the staff? Good luck there.[/glow]" and " Oh, they're behind with one play left and they're going to pass? Wow! You must be Buddy Ryan". Phantom, don't knock the 3 coaches on the staff! When I first started I'd have given my left one for another coach. It was just me and the basketball coach and had 40 kids out. We won almost 60% of our games in the 7 years I was there. We really had to work and be organized in order to accomplish what we needed to do. I know this got away from the topic, but felt I needed to respond.[/quote] I understand that that's the case in some places. As I mentioned earlier, I loved "Evening Shade" which was about a small town. Minnesota State winning the national championship with 3 coaches, none with an apparrant IQ above 90, or TC Williams in "Remember the Titans" winning with 4 coaches-oops, one got fired- well, that's different.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 14, 2007 16:19:46 GMT -6
Midline...I think he is talking more about situations like the TV show COACH..with 3 coaches... the movie the Program.. and the stupidest of them all (from a coaching situation) VARSITY BLUES..where the HC icon quits during the game..and the kids take over to call plays.
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 14, 2007 17:00:15 GMT -6
My wife hates watching football movies with me. Just hates it.
My question is this, why can't a movie hire someone to talk to them a little and try to make it a little realistic from a football/coaching aspect just once? Especially on historic movies like Remember the Titans. Actually the most realistic football portions of a movie may actually be in the Marky Mark movie about Vince Papalli (can't remember the name).
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Post by midlineqb on Jun 14, 2007 18:47:53 GMT -6
I guess I took the comment wrong. I just remember when I was starting out as a coach in the late 60's early 70's and people just didn't have large staffs. One year I was the only football coach, my Supt. did come out and help some Mon thru Wed.
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Post by kdcoach on Jun 15, 2007 7:41:14 GMT -6
It's funny, when I was in school we only had two coaches. Our head coach worked with the line and our asst. coach worked with the backs and receivers. Special Teams were an afterthought and we never kicked an extra point. Our H.F.C.'s philosophy was that if our offensive line couldn't get us 3 yards when we needed it than he needed a new line.... ;D We won 17 out of 20 games between my Jr. and Sr. year and a county championship my Sr year. I wish I was half the football coach that man was! He is the best communicator I have ever met.
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 15, 2007 8:02:15 GMT -6
Actually the most realistic football portions of a movie may actually be in the Marky Mark movie about Vince Papalli (can't remember the name). I saw this movie on a plane and I didn't think it was terrible. Some of the story of the Vince guy was done kind of hokey, but I generally enjoyed the Greg Kinnear scenes as Dick Vermeil. I thought they did a decent job of trying to depict smart men under a lot of pressure. But it was far from a "great" movie or anything.
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Post by fbdoc on Jun 15, 2007 8:23:01 GMT -6
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