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Post by cqmiller on Jun 2, 2006 14:13:35 GMT -6
We've got our 7-on-7 league tomorrow morning, and I just wanted to ask this question:
Why do teams that go to the 7-on-7 leagues who run Veer, 2TE/3RB, Run DOMINANT offenses, ALWAYS come out in 5 WR sets in these passing leagues?
Our team uses the 7-on-7 to teach the plays we will run DURING THE SEASON. I have never faced a team that has sent out all 5 WR's more than 1-2 times in an entire game, but in these 7-on-7 leagues, EVERYBODY seems to have 5 WR sets, but 2 months from now, they will only send out 3 WR's max during a real game.
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Post by coachveer on Jun 2, 2006 14:23:58 GMT -6
Because they don't have to worry about pass protection.
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Post by ocinaz on Jun 2, 2006 15:23:20 GMT -6
I talked to a coach who used to pound the ball, I asked him what he did in passing leagues. He told me, he still ran most of his stuff, his play action, but he did throw in some 4 and 5 wide, he said maybe somewhere down the line during the season, they might need it, he never knew.
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Post by here4thekids on Jun 2, 2006 17:24:06 GMT -6
Coach,
I always wonder the same thing myself. It is always unbelievable to me how maybe run oriented teams go to straight spread or run and shoot style of offenses for the 7 on 7 tournaments. To me it is ridiculous; run your offense!! You need to work on your fakes, play-action, etc. at these 7 on 7 games. But that is just my opinion. I will however tell you what a wing-t coach around my area told me about this subject. The team he coached went to a full 4 and 5 wide set for passing league and I asked him why did the go away from the wing-t. Well, he told me that this was there hurry up or come from behind offense, lol. I don't know about that, but I can tell you I didn't see it when they were losing by 20+ points to us, lol.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 2, 2006 17:37:45 GMT -6
how about we play 7 on 7 because:
1) it's fun for the kids
2) it's good to be around the kids in a more relaxed atmosphere and build a little relationship with both them and their parents
3) it's great for the kids to come together as a "family" through the summer... build relationships with each other... those that will last a lifetime
4) it's fun for the kids --- THEY LOVE DOING IT
give me break about "work our offense, work our defense"... let's put US aside and focus on what it can do for THEM!!! i mean, if i NEED the summer 7 on 7 season to get my offense ready, then what was i wasting my time on this spring? what am i going to do this fall? i'm not saying totally scrap your language, but what's the big deal??? if someone thinks it's only about the x's & o's in the summer 7 on 7 then they are missing what it really does for their program.
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Post by benchwarmer on Jun 2, 2006 18:16:09 GMT -6
We are a small school but for the past 5 years we have gone to 7 on 7 tournaments. We run our offense and our pass plays that we will use during the season. We don't necessarily get in tournaments to win but to gain experience, learn from our mistakes offensively & defensively, to grow as a team and to have fun. There is nothing wrong with 'working' to get better. Some folks though sure put a lot of stock in 'winning' a 7 on 7 tournament. After the summer ends and August practice starts our records are all 0-0, no one has clinched the league yet, no one has won a state championship etc. Last year we ran into a coach who flat out was foaming at the mouth like it was Friday night and wanted blood at a non-contact 7 on 7 scrimmage!!
His team finished the season 1-9.
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Post by ramsoc on Jun 3, 2006 8:16:44 GMT -6
Alot of teams I know go to passing tourneys not for their offense, but for their defensive backfield to get work in. We run the wing t, so most of our passing is play action, which really doesn't translate in 7 on 7, but we're signed up for 3 passing tourneys, so our DBs and LBs can get looks. We face a number of 3-4 WR teams.
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Post by pegleg on Jun 3, 2006 8:43:16 GMT -6
i think its great for the competitive atmosphere and the fun of playing as huey said.
that being siad, it is also great for us because its what we do. our offense is 4 and 5 wide so it allows us to work on our stuff, which is of some benefit as we are able to get more reps and "see" coverages.
the thing that bothers me is when some one has a 7 on 7 offense. by this i mean the 0-1 yard routes that are run where the ol/dl would be. this is not realistic and are used solely for the purposes fo 7 on 7 and don't teach anything other than we can complete passes in an area where there are no defenders in 7 on 7. i have no problem with run oriented team playing in the leagues, i just want people to play some form of football, not sandlot crap that doesn't translate to friday nite.
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Post by riverrat on Jun 3, 2006 8:43:17 GMT -6
7 on 7 has both positive and negatives. The positives are great
conditioning, fun, and you can re-teach things from spring training.
The negatives are doing things you normally don't do in the season, LB's get into bad habits, QB gets comfortable with no pressure, and coaching ego's get in the way.
just my .02 cents
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