Mike Vick says...

I'll be sympathetic when hunters start hanging and electrocuting deer, ducks etc.

Most hunters who have any merit attempt to kill the animal as quickly and painlessly as possible. Plus they use the animal for a purpose (ie food). Vick and his cohorts took pleasure in torturing animals and used them for amusement. That is what makes it sick.

Oh and I pretty sure since he is a celebrity he will fare a lot better than you or me legally. Of course he will never get his popularity back.

Duck Fighting

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Anyone care to wager, my moneys on the white one....wait they arent fighting at all.....

... I didn't know what was going on, it was Ron Mexico electrocuting those dogs...

See...

That's exactly what I'm talking about...

Who wouldn't pay to see a couple of Ducks... get down... or is that a gaggle of ducks?

Either way... if Ducks want to Bang.... ... who am I to not eat the loser?

khal, stop stealing your arguments from Cross Bones. Please.

khalfie, not sure if it is legal in the land of honest abe but in wisconsin you can shoot wild dogs. you see a dog chasing a deer, you can shoot it.

I would say dog fighting today is similar to what the romans did back in the day. sell tickets and let humans fight to the death.
people are blood thirsty individuals.

speaking of eating dogs, it is very common in iraq right now for dogs to be on the dinner table in really poor parts of the country.

not to mention it is not uncommon to see wild packs of dogs munching on dead insurgents bodys which lay in the streets and rot.

What about a Doggie Escort Service?? Im just saying..

And yes that is my dog.. I think my wife is trying to tell me that she wants a baby...

I mayke could agree with khalfie but it is how the dogs are treated which does it for me. if two people want to fight in the ring they train, eat right and workout.

Dogfighters treat their dogs with such harsh measures.


I really think if ron mexico is convicted, he should have to live the life of one of his dogs for a month. chained to a stake, in a mud pit, fed only every other day.

dogs are special. they are god spelled backwards.

I know this topic wasn't meant to start an argument, just some discussion, but like some people have said, it is the way the dogs are treated to get ready for a fight or how they are treated if they aren't tough enough, that is what the problem is. In MMA, boxing, etc. there is a ref who stops the fight if someone can't answer the bell...in dog fighting, a dog is left in the ring helpless until it is killed..not very humane.....in my opinion, Vick is guilty regardless of whether he actually participated or not, there is no way he didn't know what was going on....and to electrucute, hang, and smash dogs against the ground because they aren't deemed tough enough...come on, I don't care who you are, there is no person who can argue this and condone it and normal. I might be a little bias because I won a pit bull, he is 2 years old and I rescued from a shelter when he was 2 months old...he is a great dog who loves people and other dogs, but it sucks when you are walking him and people cross the street becaue they see the "mean looking pit bull"...something that is totally false, but that is just me, and I will get off my soapbox now!!

If I could just borrow your soapbox for a moment, darebelcoach....

First of all, I could care less if the person(s) responsible is named Mike Vick. Who gives a crap about how rich and famous someone is when talking about animal cruelty? I do wish that whoever is responsible receives the maximum sentence.

"But lets say Mike did partake in the animal cruelty? Is it so bad?"
Is that supposed to be a rhetorical question?

Those dogs- any dog, for that matter- are capable of doing so much.



And, yet, people with the morals of a sociopath do these sort of things to them.


I won't even get into the jerks that train those dogs to be so viscious that they attack and kill humans. Or, the owners on the other side of the spectrum that don't bother training them anything and wonder why their little precious mauled someone.
I'm sure this thread was bait. But, that's okay. People shouldn't pretend to debate or discuss animal cruelty through some false sense of incomprehension and lack of understanding. It doesn't matter that America is a nation of dog lovers. Personally, I can't stand cats. But, I wouldn't condone abusing them. Dogfighting is a product of animal cruelty.
The fact that other countries allow dogfights has no legal or moral bearing on the subject in America. Do something that is allowed in another country but, not in America. Stand in front of the judge and boldly say, "It's legal in Afghanistan, your honor." I bet that won't get you very far along your path to freedom.
And, who cares what other countries do? If anything, that would help prove what degenerates these types of people are that participate in dogfighting in America. They could go to other countries and participate in it all that they want. Yet, they can't be bothered to travel there and go do it. Hmm...I wonder why? I don't know but, I bet winning $1,000 dollars U.S. is a lot more lucrative than winning $1,000 pesos in Columbia.
Nevermind.... I guess that I'm done with the soapbox, too.

As someone said; let the justice system do its job and then I'll pass judgment.

However, being indicted by a federal grand jury is never a positive thing on someone's record.

nascar racer greg biffle wants vick jailed. he is a big antidog fighting advocate.

he says these dog fighters steel family dogs and use them for practice with the real fight dogs.

so when fighto turns up missing and the people put up flyers for a reward. many times these dogs have been taken to be bait.

actually it is significantly better than his completion percentage.