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Post by coachjblair on Jul 5, 2006 20:22:47 GMT -6
I know these college teams run the Bill Walsh type offense
Northern Iowa Boston College Washington Stanford I was wondering what other colleges run this offense, also are their any power house high school teams that run it and if so what schools are they.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jul 5, 2006 20:51:24 GMT -6
by now, i imagine that most teams with any type of passing game employ some WCO principles ... we are not a "west coast" team but use several of their schemes and philosophies in our attack
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Post by tog on Jul 5, 2006 21:36:25 GMT -6
i wouldn't call UNI west coast offense at all
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Post by tvt50 on Jul 6, 2006 0:14:44 GMT -6
UVA- West Coast (installed under Bill Musgrave when he was OC in Groh's 1st year) Nebraska- West Coast (Callahan) Kansas STate- Ron Prince HC (worked under Musgrave at UVA) NC State- Marc Trestman OC (worked under Gruden and with the 49ers) Boston College- Dana Bible OC (worked under Andy Reid and with Stanford) I guess anybody that comes from that Bill Walsh tree of coaches could be considered West Coast.
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Post by coachjblair on Jul 6, 2006 7:52:53 GMT -6
Tog I went to UNI and worked for the football team as a student assistant. The coaches thier say they run the most pure form of the west coast offense.
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Post by cqmiller on Jul 6, 2006 7:57:02 GMT -6
USC Trojans
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Post by heavyhitter41 on Jul 6, 2006 11:22:31 GMT -6
Pittsburgh
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Post by adw30 on Jul 7, 2006 0:36:21 GMT -6
The teams that I know run the offense.
Stanford San Jose State (Ken Margerum the OC is a Walsh disciple) UCLA (WCO under former OC Tom Cable was hired as Falcons OL) Mississippi State (Pure WCO offense Croom came from Green Bay) Auburn (Al Borges is the OC and is a WCO guru) Nebraska Virginia Boston College Kansas State New Mexico (Bob Toledo former UCLA HC is new OC) NC State *Syracuse (Ran WCO last season, has new OC in place so it remains to be seen how much the scheme will change)
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Post by ttowntiger on Jul 7, 2006 10:51:00 GMT -6
Also, remember that the Air Raid Offense is just a more wide open version of the West Coast Offense. Mumme basically took Norm Chow's passing game and added some twists to it. So really, any team that runs the Air Raid technically runs the west Coast.
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Post by brophy on Jul 7, 2006 11:00:36 GMT -6
Tog I went to UNI and worked for the football team as a student assistant. The coaches thier say they run the most pure form of the west coast offense. That's interesting.....UNI and Coach Farley, from what I've seen over the years, is mostly spread stuff.....going 5 wides and out of the gun....I dunno if that classifies as WCO...but then again, can anyone cleanly define WCO? I always thought that the Walsh offenses were more reminiscient of Paul Brown's stuff, and the more wide open stuff was attributed to Gilman (?). What the heck do I know, though?
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Post by coachjblair on Jul 7, 2006 11:09:34 GMT -6
Actully UNI very rarley goes 5 wide. I am not saying it is not in thier offense, but we very rarley used it. UNI tends to line up more in 21 personel 12 or 11 personel. I do think UNI tends to run the shotgun more then most west coast teams.
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Post by oguru on Jul 7, 2006 11:39:20 GMT -6
After visiting with the staff at Nebraska this summer in June. Coach Callahan said that the true west coast offense is absed out of 21 personnel. Which is what Bill Wlash started it out to be.Since then all of his disciplies if you want to call them that have taken it to one back, shotgun,and even empty formations
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Post by tog on Jul 7, 2006 11:57:12 GMT -6
Tog I went to UNI and worked for the football team as a student assistant. The coaches thier say they run the most pure form of the west coast offense. LOL I guess the term has gotten very dilluted. Wether they be pure or not, it just isn't what I think of when I see it. That's all. No disrespect or argument from me here. This becomes a semantics issue that lots of people will have varying words for things and as long as we all stay cool about it, we will be fine. I personally can't stand the term, as it gives some kind of magical worthyness to an offense, when the offenses out there using that term are so vastly varied. TV people use it wayyyyyy too much. About like using the term "spread" What does that mean?
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