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Post by wingt74 on Nov 27, 2006 10:38:45 GMT -6
Just read a thread about Tennesse's comeback...and didn't want to steal the tread...so started a new one.
The NFL has gone to GREAT lengths to protect QBs from getting hurt. And now, it has gone WAY to far.
3 Weeks ago, Tom Brady "escaped" a sack and threw a pass in a game. He "escaped" because the defender wasn't sure if the QB had the ball or not...and didn't want to get a 15 yard penalty.
Now, you have Vince Young "getting away" from the Giant defender. Again, the only reason why Young got away was the defender didn't want to get a 15 yard penalty.
Protecting the QB has gone WAY to far. If the NFL wasts to protect them so much, they should put red jerseys on them, and play 2 hand touch.
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 27, 2006 10:45:02 GMT -6
nfl is more entertainment industry than it is sports industry -- if you ask me.
money and promotion is what they want ... in their mind they equate protecting the "star" much like, would fewer people have watched forrest gump if tom hanks weren't the "star"? they think, will fewer people come to the games (and buy apparel) if tom brady is out?
sad but it is true, imo ....
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 27, 2006 10:59:45 GMT -6
all of their offenses are way too qb intensive and there arent enough quality qbs for the number of teams. the backups drop way off in many cases. so, protecting the qb is the premium. personally, if i was in the nfl Id recruit all the option qbs...imagine having the top 3 or 4 option qbs on one team! ...
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 27, 2006 11:03:56 GMT -6
To be honest I watch very little NFL football. I watch ESPN to get all the highlights from the day. If the Bears are on (I live outside the Bears market) I will watch those games. I just find the NFL to be borring compared to watching college or high school games.
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Post by wildcat on Nov 27, 2006 11:23:27 GMT -6
Brian Urlacher is taking a beating from the media today for not laying out Tom Brady on New England's game-winning drive last night. After the game, Urlacher said he didn't hit Brady because he thought Brady was going to slide (he didn't). PERFECT example...had Urlacher have walloped Brady last night, it would have likely resulted in some kind of 15-yard penalty and New England would have had a 1st Down anyway.
Can't hit the QB high, can't him him low...They should just get rid of the linemen and running backs and play 7 on 7 instead.
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 27, 2006 11:28:02 GMT -6
Brian Urlacher is taking a beating from the media today for not laying out Tom Brady on New England's game-winning drive last night. After the game, Urlacher said he didn't hit Brady because he thought Brady was going to slide (he didn't). PERFECT example...had Urlacher have walloped Brady last night, it would have likely resulted in some kind of 15-yard penalty and New England would have had a 1st Down anyway. Can't hit the QB high, can't him him low...They should just get rid of the linemen and running backs and play 7 on 7 instead. I saw that and thought the same thing. I hate hate slide. I think it is one of the worst rules in football. |
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Post by superpower on Nov 27, 2006 11:42:10 GMT -6
To be honest I watch very little NFL football. I watch ESPN to get all the highlights from the day. If the Bears are on (I live outside the Bears market) I will watch those games. I just find the NFL to be borring compared to watching college or high school games. I totally agree that the NFL is very boring compared to college and high school. |
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Post by tvt50 on Nov 27, 2006 11:51:13 GMT -6
I love to watch the NFL.
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Post by lochness on Nov 27, 2006 12:02:54 GMT -6
NFL football bores me as well. It's just too vanilla. I like seeing a variety of offensive and defensive schemes.
I love watching college football, unless it's 2 gun spread teams going at each other. Then I may as well watch hoops, which I dislike quite a bit. The Louisville / Pitt game was fun to watch because they mixed their schemes up nicely (2 back, 1 back, some gun spread) and ran the ball well. I REALLY enjoy watching D2 and D3 college football, because there is much more diversity in player skills and team strategy at that level.
My new favorite thing is watching HS football on my Fox College Sports channels. HS is definitely the best level to watch...especially between 2 evenly matched teams.
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Post by brophy on Nov 27, 2006 12:25:38 GMT -6
i really enjoyed the NFL prior to the 2003 season, when they 'changed the rules' to start enforcing the 5 yard reroute rule.....that and the horse-collar tackle enforcement BS are starting to turn this game into some NERF game.
I enjoy watching the NFL for the degree of athleticism involved and the technique used.
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Post by superpower on Nov 27, 2006 13:00:51 GMT -6
The thing that scares me is that the NFL influence will likely trickle down to the college and high school levels at some point.
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Post by blb on Nov 27, 2006 13:19:04 GMT -6
Don't know about your neck of the woods, superpower, but the trickle down effect has been here for years.
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Post by brophy on Nov 27, 2006 13:33:03 GMT -6
pretty sweet after-game-locker-room with Sean Payton msn.foxsports.com/nfl (click on Saints clip the Falcons video link in lower right tab) |
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Post by superpower on Nov 27, 2006 13:36:13 GMT -6
Don't know about your neck of the woods, superpower, but the trickle down effect has been here for years. You are correct about that, but it hasn't hit the NFHS rules yet. That is my concern, the trickle down of the NFL rules which are turning football into a non-contact sport for prima-donna QBs. |
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Post by airman on Nov 27, 2006 15:42:48 GMT -6
I would say college has way more effect on the high school game then the pro's do.
every offense has to be qb intensive. you do not win with out a good qb period.
the one thing I would like to see is adopt the nfl style hash marks on the high school field. use the high school goal post for hashmarks like the pro's use their goalpost for.
keep the ball in the center for the most part. now then you would see some spreadin of the field.
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Post by mnpasso on Nov 27, 2006 17:01:28 GMT -6
I dislike the pro hashes! So much for defending the field. I do a double take every time I actually see a 3 x 1 formation in the pros, which isn't often. The pro hashes are a small factor in the pro offenses being so homogenous. Long live the high schol hashes!
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Post by Coach Geordie on Nov 28, 2006 5:49:25 GMT -6
A few years ago didn't a defender scream at a ref who called him for leveling Vick on a fake bootelg "He's playing football too!"
The logical conclusion is that we will end up with NFL "ground rules"
"Our No 11 is a running QB so you can hit him but if our No 17 comes into the game then he's a passer so you cannot hit him. OK?"
Pay them all less money and no one would worry about them getting hit so hard.
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