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Post by cometcoach on Aug 26, 2022 13:15:09 GMT -6
Coaches -
Just curious to hear or see what you are using for a scouting report format for your kids.
We have gone from playmaker, to google slides/docs, to hudl video reports...
Always looking for the best way to connect and get some basic information to the kids.
Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you.
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Post by tripsclosed on Aug 26, 2022 14:08:17 GMT -6
Coaches - Just curious to hear or see what you are using for a scouting report format for your kids. We have gone from playmaker, to google slides/docs, to hudl video reports... Always looking for the best way to connect and get some basic information to the kids. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are appreciated. Thank you. IMHO, scouting reports for players are an absolute and complete waste of time in most HS situations. Hate to say it, though ☹ |
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Post by cqmiller on Aug 26, 2022 15:29:20 GMT -6
I'm with tripsclosed on this one... I've been at exactly 1 school in my entire career where the kids actually took them serious and it was worth our time. Not a coincidence we won a state title. Everywhere else it is hours of work by coaches to just pickup 99% of them on the floor in the lockerroom, meeting room, etc... We pulled our "hudl viewing" yesterday at practice and we have 10-12 starters who have watched less than 1 minute of film in the past 7 days... |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Aug 26, 2022 15:48:08 GMT -6
We put ours up in hudl. It's a combination of PowerPoint notes, clips, and my hand drawn pictures of plays and run fits.
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Post by chi5hi on Aug 26, 2022 16:22:08 GMT -6
Coaches - Just curious to hear or see what you are using for a scouting report format for your kids. We have gone from playmaker, to google slides/docs, to hudl video reports... Always looking for the best way to connect and get some basic information to the kids. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions are appreciated. Thank you. Did you ever wonder how coaches did scouting reports, say...50 years ago? |
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Post by agap on Aug 26, 2022 20:57:11 GMT -6
At all the schools I've coached at, we've printed scouting reports, put them on Hudl, and emailed them to players. 98% of the players never looked at them no matter how we showed it to them. When I was DC, I stopped wasting my time making one to give to the players because they didn't look. I still made one for myself, but it wasn't something I could give to anyone because they wouldn't understand it.
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Post by wingtol on Aug 28, 2022 12:42:04 GMT -6
For defense I would do a one page front and back tip sheet with their best plays and most used formations. Encouraged them to watch hudl during the week.
Had an old veteran amazing guy coach with us who would make elaborate packets with all kinds of information etc. Was great for me as a coach. Not so great when I would have to give him a pep talk after he found 90% of them laying in lockers and on the floor.
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Post by cqmiller on Aug 28, 2022 13:11:05 GMT -6
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Post by Defcord on Aug 28, 2022 16:19:46 GMT -6
It’s good to do them for the organizational and game planning aspect.
They are probably really beneficial for young coaches to learn how to break down an opponent and approach preparation systematically.
I don’t feel like kids are getting a ton out of them but I feel like the information needs to be organized so I don’t mind doing one.
Ours is a cover page with the opponent’s personnel, a note on shag they do well and where we can gain an edge; top three runs and top three passes; our personnel (who’s getting practice reps in rotation); and new calls or checks. After the cover page it’s a page of their top formations and how’ll we’ll line up and then a page after that with their top plays and how we fit the run and match their patterns.
I doubt kids are studying it but it’s nice to know all of us coaches are on the same page from doing it.
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Post by fantom on Aug 28, 2022 18:07:48 GMT -6
We used Playmaker and gave each kid a paper copy. It was a scouting report and a game plan. Because most of guys were two way players, at least nominally, our report included all three phases:
1. Personnel on O and D plus specialists with comments about notable players.
2. Special teams showing our blocks/returns.
3. Offense- Draw up every run and pass play.
4. Defense- draw up every front and coverage with adjustments vs expected formations plus a page showing stunts and blitzes.
For us a big part of Monday's practice was going over the report/game plan. We usually handed the reports out before going outside. We put each player's # on each report so we knew who got theirs and whose it was if we found one laying around.
Some guys read the report religiously, some didn't look at them at all but the point is that they weren't completely ignored. I think it was worth it. If nothing else, it helped the coordinators get our ideas together and got position coaches on the same page. If some players ignored it, well, we did our part.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Aug 31, 2022 6:51:20 GMT -6
we use google docs and put it in a google classroo we set up for the kids to join
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Post by coachirish on Sept 2, 2022 8:21:30 GMT -6
One thing that we did was have the players put their name on it and turn it back in on gameday. This made them keep up with it more. If a kid lost it they would have extra conditioning or some sort of punishment.
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Post by agap on Sept 2, 2022 13:24:44 GMT -6
One thing that we did was have the players put their name on it and turn it back in on gameday. This made them keep up with it more. If a kid lost it they would have extra conditioning or some sort of punishment. This makes sure that they don't just throw it on the floor or throw it away, but it still doesn't help solve the issue of players not looking at the scouting report. It's the same thing on Hudl; they can just run the film so they have a lot of viewing time, but they're not actually watching it. |
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Post by tripsclosed on Sept 3, 2022 14:06:58 GMT -6
One thing that we did was have the players put their name on it and turn it back in on gameday. This made them keep up with it more. If a kid lost it they would have extra conditioning or some sort of punishment. This makes sure that they don't just throw it on the floor or throw it away, but it still doesn't help solve the issue of players not looking at the scouting report. It's the same thing on Hudl; they can just run the film so they have a lot of viewing time, but they're not actually watching it. Yup. |
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Post by waddles52 on Sept 5, 2022 15:18:48 GMT -6
I'm a DC and I do them. Post them in our Google classroom. Same format every time.
Slide 1: Opponent facts (record, common opponents, PPG)
Slide 2: Opponent strengths, including best players (never more than 5)
Slide 3: Opponent weaknesses (never more than 5)
Slide 4: Tendencies (only if really big. Not going to bog them down with 54:46 run:pass) and Top plays (3-5 runs, 3-5 passes)
Slide 5: Opponent starters (include number, class, height, weight, when possible)
Slide 6: Adjustments for us this week/new install
Slide 7: Keys for the week
My HUDL cutups match the plays I list on slide 4.
When we go thru during pre-practice Monday, rarely takes more than 20 minutes
A lot of the same as above though, it's really beneficial for me to organize thoughts. Kids this year have yet to really show an interest in any of it. When we went to the state title game three years ago for the first time, I felt I couldn't give that group enough information. They were always wanting more.
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