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Post by wingman on Jul 19, 2007 22:05:24 GMT -6
How about the coaches who on 3rd and 8 yell at their defense:
"Watch the Pass!"
'Watch the draw!"
"Watch the screen!"
'Watch the boot!"
"Watch the run!"
And then when one of these happens as it must, they yell"I told them!!"
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Post by tog on Jul 19, 2007 22:10:21 GMT -6
i hate hearing "watch" anything
play it
also, i hate it when coaches ask "why are you not running?"
"coach, i am a lazy ass, and do not feel like running from this drill to the next"
way to set the no win response from a kid
instead, just expect them to do it right, and then force them to do it with positive wordings
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 20, 2007 3:55:59 GMT -6
"just hit someone" - typically the direction/instruction given to kids who have been poorly trained in 'who" to block.
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Post by davecisar on Jul 20, 2007 5:17:11 GMT -6
The same guy that says "Hit Somebody" ( the phrase I HATE the most) is; "You gotta block"
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Post by tothehouse on Jul 20, 2007 6:51:34 GMT -6
The "you've gotta ___________" is the best. That is like a baseball manager going to the mound and telling the pitcher, "you've gotta throw strikes". The pitcher's like, "no s**t coach".
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Post by lionhart on Jul 20, 2007 7:02:31 GMT -6
how about this one...... "just be an athlete!!". typical response when a kid asks a coach a question the coach can't answer. "coach, what do i do when the_________". coach ,"well, you just gotta be an athlete."
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Post by airraider on Jul 20, 2007 7:06:04 GMT -6
Wow arent we all perfect?? So none of you have ever said any of these things?
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Post by tothehouse on Jul 20, 2007 7:18:19 GMT -6
the thread isn't "everyone being perfect" it's "bad coaching advice". Doesn't mean people haven't said this before. I actually use, "be an athlete", but I use it in the context after explaining positioning and reads. Example: "Line up where you are supposed to, key the correct key, and be an athlete." I don't use it to explain an answer to why somebody should have done something. Like, "you need to be an athlete right there and make a play".
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Post by lionhart on Jul 20, 2007 7:26:27 GMT -6
tothehouse... i have a great example for you where a coach said "be an athlete" and i wanted to kill him. he tells a CB that if the qb rolls your way, you are comin and the qb is your responsibility. happens in the game, the kid comes, and the qb throws softly over his head to a wide open wr. the coach screams at the kid, and the kid says that he did exactly what the coach told him to do. the coach's response was ..."you know, sometimes you just have to be an athlete." by you EXPLAINING and TEACHING your players, like you mentioned... then the phrase "be an athlete" takes on another meaning. its like saying "go get em", or something to that effect.
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Post by airraider on Jul 20, 2007 7:28:35 GMT -6
Wow arent we all perfect?? So none of you have ever said any of these things? Wow, looks someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning..  |
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Post by tothehouse on Jul 20, 2007 7:44:40 GMT -6
lion...I totally understand....I was just saying there are times when these phrases can be used in the correct context. Air - I think I'm going to the beach.  |
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Post by lionhart on Jul 20, 2007 7:53:12 GMT -6
yeah, i agree with you. and ive found myself saying "watch screen" sometimes because we picked up a tendency on film..... but saying watch pass,run,draw,etc. just screws the kids up more.
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Post by tvt50 on Jul 20, 2007 8:29:09 GMT -6
I love yelling on 3rd and 1 to watch the ball and the whole D-line jumps offsides!!! LOL!!!
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Post by lukethadrifter on Jul 20, 2007 8:35:18 GMT -6
You teach them all of those situations and what to look for in practice so that you don't have to do a lot of yelling in a game. Luke
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2007 9:56:29 GMT -6
I holler "watch the screen!" or "watch draw!" "watch pass!" ALL THE TIME. What else am I supposed to do after I signal the stuff in? I'm not screaming everything every play but why wouldn't you tell them what you think might come? What if you just think it and don't say it and it happens. Doesn't anyone ever tell your guys "STAY DEEEEP!!!"
I think there's a difference between useless info and just hollering out something for them to think about. Aside from calling the defense there's not much else I have to accomplish until the ball is snapped, may as well try to tell em what I think is coming.
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Post by dacoachmo on Jul 20, 2007 10:42:17 GMT -6
1) After a game the winning coach shakes my hand and says "GOOD GAME"
my responses include
"for you guys"
"nope, not us"
After a game that my teams win, I shake the coach's hand and say good luck!
2) ditto on "WATCH the...(crap)"
I will say "STOP the or KEY the..."
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Post by lionhart on Jul 20, 2007 10:43:12 GMT -6
irish, i agree wiht you here, and ill explain. in a perfect world, all our kids would be A students who retain everything week-to-week. unfortunately for some of us, we have a large number of special need skids and such. therefore, teaching them another teams tendencies in basically 3 1/2 days of practice and having them rememember everyone is just not realistic. for this reason, i think it is a good idea for a sideline coach to "help out" the defense if he sees something. yes, your mike lb may also notice that the fb is offset from the TE side, and the team runs belly 90% of the time from this formation. but there is a distinct possibnility that your mlb doesnt see it/remember it/ call it out. as a coach, you would be selling your kids short if you didnt say anything to help them. my problem is when a coach yells out 13 things to a unit while the play clock is running down. that is counterproductive and causes more confusion than anything else
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Post by ajreaper on Jul 20, 2007 11:18:18 GMT -6
Rather then yell watch this or that I tell them to think down and distance- what has the scouting report told us? What would be predictable in this situation and what would not? I took this approach with my freshman teams the past 6 years to help them to better understand the game. Rather then just yell things out to them hopefully you've coached them up to put together clues like down, distance, time on the clock, score of the game and be able to know they need to watch for certain things at certain times.
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Post by dubber on Jul 20, 2007 13:04:37 GMT -6
better yet, "watch # so-and-so" ..............no {censored} coach, this guy's rolled up 200 yards on us in 3 quarters, it's not like we don't know who's getting the ball  |
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Post by fad3d on Jul 20, 2007 13:27:54 GMT -6
If the game is going well, my advice is usually "Watch the run and pass!"
I hate people that yell to watch a bunch of junk when the teams are coming out of the huddle, and hopefully they get my point when i yell what i do.
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Post by Tampa on Jul 20, 2007 14:15:29 GMT -6
"Don't let anybody get behind you" is usually the phrase I tell my secondary (in 1/4 coverage) immediately preceding getting beat deep.
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Post by coachcb on Jul 20, 2007 14:22:35 GMT -6
"We don't need to rep tackling, we just need to get TOUGHER"
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Post by airman on Jul 20, 2007 15:06:22 GMT -6
my fav is oline coaches who yell, don't hold. next play, U get a flag.
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Post by poweriguy on Jul 20, 2007 15:08:36 GMT -6
"Go to your left!! No! You're other left!"
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 20, 2007 15:23:48 GMT -6
Wow arent we all perfect?? So none of you have ever said any of these things? does that mean you say this crap all of the time? lol. ;D |
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Post by airman on Jul 20, 2007 15:53:36 GMT -6
"Go to your left!! No! You're other left!" speaking of this, you ever ask a kid to point to the left and he points to the right. |
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Post by lionhart on Jul 20, 2007 18:00:37 GMT -6
you kiddin? i had to write a "R" and an "L" on one of my OT's wrist tape before everygame so he would remember. (this is a TRUE story!)
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Post by coachorr on Jul 20, 2007 18:00:54 GMT -6
Tog, what about seeing a poorly coached Oline who shows run and pass?
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Post by wingman on Jul 20, 2007 18:15:53 GMT -6
No problem with yelling "Watch the screen" obvioulsy if you see a key. The point was it makes no sense to yell "watch .... and 10 different things that covers everything." I might add " Just play football" is a blanket statement used along with "Be an athlete".
My personal favorite happens when my guy trips usually in pratcice and says "I tripped" and I always say good players don't trip. Doesn't really make sense but they don't seem to trip again.
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Post by wingman on Jul 20, 2007 18:22:25 GMT -6
Also, you must be playing with more Mensa members than we do if they retain everything you say. We played a team that ran waggle everytime they lined up with an I tight slot. It was in the scout report and we talked about it every day. First time they came out, they ran it and no one on the field said a word. 10 yards. Next time, I see it from the sideline and you bet I'm yelling 'Waggle, Waggle!". We intercepted it.
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