How long are your summer workouts?

our strength and conditiong camp was mtwt, from 8 to 10

hour lifting, hour running/outside stuff

our kids also did 7on7

we also had an open weightroom mwthursday for a couple of hours

the kids came and worked hard
some went on vacations, and some took a few days off after they told us

it's all good with our staff, we understand that kids need some time off, hell, we need some time off

as long as they are responsible about it and let us know what is going on and stay in shape they will be fine

the ones that didn't do anything this summer (not the kids working their ass off hauling hay/ meat packing etc.) but the ones that just sat in the ac and played nintendo and ate bon bons

well, those kids are gonna hurt when august rolls around

We usually give them 1-2 weeks off right after school gets out. We will open the weight room for voluntary workouts. Once the mandatory period starts you have are required to be there everyday (MWF - weights, TTH - run, agilities, plyo's, etc). If you miss you have a make up (for any reason). You are expected to comunicate with us when you are going on vacation, etc. You still have make ups though. You have to finish all your make ups before you are allowed to play in a game (make ups are after practice).

Just like tog, coaches will have to miss but there is always at least 2-4 coaches there on a given day.

We try to recognize individuals who don't miss a single day of summer workouts once practice begins.

If you continually miss without comunicating you'll let go from the team.

Yeah, that's why I posted it here when I really wanted an answer. There were some posts over there about summer workouts taking too much time away from kids, family time away from coaches (without pay, and what-not.
As you can see from my initial post, all we ask is 6 hours a week with a couple very optional 7-on-7s. Most coaches take a week for a vacation and, if something comes up, just have to call the boss. It's the same for kids- if they have to miss, we just ask that they call. I've never been paid for summer conditioning and neither has anybody on the staff.
With all the complaining over there I wanted to compare our program with others. I certainly don't consider ours to be a major burden.

Amikell,

I too am at a small school. We've been fortunate with off season participation for many years...it hasn't always been that way. We have a 12 minute run they have to complete to play. We do this after the first practice, and after every practice thereafter until they make it. DBs 10 laps, LBs 9, DL 8...each time they run it we reduce it by 1/2 lap (this ensures no one will make it the first few times). If they attend 80% of the workouts off season, they can skip the 12 min. run. No one has done the run in years. Some have decided to not go out because of this, but we really wouldn't want them anyway. Another thing that has helped is we have the captains run conditioning 1 day a week (we go 4 days each week for 10 weeks). The captain's day is kind of fun... after we lift we go to the pool and water run/play water basketball, or we lift and then play dodgeball for 45 minutes. Our seniors have a lot to do with our participation...I meet with them every two weeks starting in March until the summer to explain their role in the program (which includes conditioning). They have a lot of pride in the program and take it seriously...and that helps a lot. Sometimes the younger guys think the coaches are picking on them and don't listen...but they will listen to the older players... so it really helpes to get them on board with what you want done.

another problem is that some communities need their kids to work all summer
most of these type situations though are out in the field doing hard manual labor, so at least the kids are in some kind of shape

Phantom,
I have considered that time might be a problem. the idea of having the workouts at night, 6-8, is starting to appeal to me. I think we might be able to get more there at that time. Concerning talking to the upperclassmen, I have. They make no inclination to one time or another. Phantom, you know that our school doesn't have a history of success in football, and that's contributing to the attitude to summer workouts and football in general. You're right about the kids not out chopping cotton, heck if they were, i would applaud, but like you said that ain't the problem.thanks for the ideas guys.