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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 19, 2020 12:09:49 GMT -6
We are getting down to the last leg in SC, for us this week would be the last scheduled region game. We still have 2 more weeks for non-region games, but next week we are making up a region game from a couple of weeks ago b/c our opponent had to quarantine.
The schedule our League Office set up in the beginning did it this way for just this reason.
So, far we've had several region teams have to shut down and reschedule games. I think there are a couple of teams in the Midlands that are having to face forfeiting region games because of quarantine. I do know that the League Office sent out stating that if teams have to quarantine and miss games over the next 3 weeks, that they will have to forfeit said games. Which means there is a possibility that shutting down could affect a team's region finish, and in turn qualifying for the playoffs.
Normally we have 5 rounds of playoffs and 32 teams qualifying (top 4 finishers from each region... mostly) per division. This year only 4 rounds, 16 teams (top 2 region finishers) per division. Playoffs are to start 11/23.
League Office said way back when we finally got around to kicking the season off, that the season had been pushed back as far as they were willing to do so, and that if the situation dictated a need that the season would then just be cancelled.
So, has this issue arisen for anyone else? Like I mentioned I've heard that some regions are already looking at tie breaker rules because they are not going to be able to get all their game played. Another issue is come playoff time, how will we handle a team's game that qualified for the playoffs, but gets quarantined.
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Post by wolverine55 on Oct 19, 2020 12:22:18 GMT -6
Iowa actually shortened the season to 7 weeks and last Friday was the first game of the playoffs. Essentially, everyone got into the playoffs because the state didn't want teams unfairly punished for having to miss games due to Covid. Even if it was one team that decided to not play a game, it wasn't a forfeit. It was a no-contest.
A playoff situation already happened: one team decided not to play last Friday due to Covid. The other team didn't get credit for a win, but did get to move on to the second round.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 19, 2020 13:39:55 GMT -6
Iowa actually shortened the season to 7 weeks and last Friday was the first game of the playoffs. Essentially, everyone got into the playoffs because the state didn't want teams unfairly punished for having to miss games due to Covid. Even if it was one team that decided to not play a game, it wasn't a forfeit. It was a no-contest. A playoff situation already happened: one team decided not to play last Friday due to Covid. The other team didn't get credit for a win, but did get to move on to the second round. Our season is 7 weeks also, we just pushed back the starting date. |
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Post by realdawg on Oct 20, 2020 3:31:04 GMT -6
I actually like the idea of letting almost everyone in the playoffs during this crazy season. Helps with teams that have had to forfeit that are still good teams, also gives kids a chance to play 1 more games during a shortened season. Instead generally we are cutting the number of teams in playoffs.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 20, 2020 4:51:04 GMT -6
I actually like the idea of letting almost everyone in the playoffs during this crazy season. Helps with teams that have had to forfeit that are still good teams, also gives kids a chance to play 1 more games during a shortened season. Instead generally we are cutting the number of teams in playoffs. Virginia cut the number of playoff teams in half, form 32 per division down to 16 but added a Plus One game for all non-playoff teams. We will see how it works out but I like the concept. Instead of a 1st round game where the low seed gets drilled they can play a game vs a non-conference rival or another team of similar ability. That last game can be competitive instead of a beat down. The other sid eif it is your playoff games should, more or less, all be competitive. |
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Post by realdawg on Oct 20, 2020 5:59:07 GMT -6
SC did something similar I believe. However, in NC where I am, we are playing in Feb a 7 game season. No built in date for makeups, half the number of teams in the playoffs, and no plus 1 for teams that dont make the playoffs.
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Post by Down 'n Out on Oct 20, 2020 9:30:08 GMT -6
SC did something similar I believe. However, in NC where I am, we are playing in Feb a 7 game season. No built in date for makeups, half the number of teams in the playoffs, and no plus 1 for teams that dont make the playoffs. Virginia will start in February also , 6 game season. Many teams are playing their 1st game on a Monday of opening week which will in effect allow some flexability later in the season as no bye week is built in. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 20, 2020 11:42:15 GMT -6
Having read these stories (and others) and following Louisiana football I am a little disappointed that so many organizations didn't turn the calendar back a century or so and handle this situation differently. Instead of trying to follow a structured season which feeds into playoffs etc, I think this might have been a time to get very individualized. "Hey, Jefferson High ? This is Washington High . We have some boys that are interested in football and formed a team. We heard you had a team too, would you be interested in playing in a week or two? Great. See you then"
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Post by coachcb on Oct 20, 2020 12:46:51 GMT -6
I can see some difficult situations coming down the playoff pipeline in all sports. We're rolling up on volleyball districts and I have no idea how they're going to manage those tournaments as they've cancelled individual games left and right over the last couple of weeks.
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Post by coachklee on Oct 20, 2020 18:32:01 GMT -6
Iowa actually shortened the season to 7 weeks and last Friday was the first game of the playoffs. Essentially, everyone got into the playoffs because the state didn't want teams unfairly punished for having to miss games due to Covid. Even if it was one team that decided to not play a game, it wasn't a forfeit. It was a no-contest. A playoff situation already happened: one team decided not to play last Friday due to Covid. The other team didn't get credit for a win, but did get to move on to the second round. What??? Isn’t winning & advancing in playoffs the same thing?!? |
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Post by Defcord on Oct 20, 2020 18:51:17 GMT -6
Having read these stories (and others) and following Louisiana football I am a little disappointed that so many organizations didn't turn the calendar back a century or so and handle this situation differently. Instead of trying to follow a structured season which feeds into playoffs etc, I think this might have been a time to get very individualized. "Hey, Jefferson High ? This is Washington High . We have some boys that are interested in football and formed a team. We heard you had a team too, would you be interested in playing in a week or two? Great. See you then" I think this has actually happened quite a bit in multiple states when teams have lost an opponent to quarantine. They just look and see who else lost and opponent and make it work. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 20, 2020 19:20:50 GMT -6
Having read these stories (and others) and following Louisiana football I am a little disappointed that so many organizations didn't turn the calendar back a century or so and handle this situation differently. Instead of trying to follow a structured season which feeds into playoffs etc, I think this might have been a time to get very individualized. "Hey, Jefferson High ? This is Washington High . We have some boys that are interested in football and formed a team. We heard you had a team too, would you be interested in playing in a week or two? Great. See you then" I think this has actually happened quite a bit in multiple states when teams have lost an opponent to quarantine. They just look and see who else lost and opponent and make it work. Yes, I have seen this from week to week. I just meant that the idea of trying to "be normal" so that there can be playoffs and a championship seems short sighted to me. |
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Post by coachklee on Oct 21, 2020 4:34:46 GMT -6
Having read these stories (and others) and following Louisiana football I am a little disappointed that so many organizations didn't turn the calendar back a century or so and handle this situation differently. Instead of trying to follow a structured season which feeds into playoffs etc, I think this might have been a time to get very individualized. "Hey, Jefferson High ? This is Washington High . We have some boys that are interested in football and formed a team. We heard you had a team too, would you be interested in playing in a week or two? Great. See you then" I think this has actually happened quite a bit in multiple states when teams have lost an opponent to quarantine. They just look and see who else lost and opponent and make it work. There have been cancellations Friday afternoon followed by re-schedules for a game on Saturday. Honestly, think that’d be fun to be part of a game like that (and obviously not fun if you are the team quarantined). |
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Post by Defcord on Oct 21, 2020 6:31:44 GMT -6
I think this has actually happened quite a bit in multiple states when teams have lost an opponent to quarantine. They just look and see who else lost and opponent and make it work. There have been cancellations Friday afternoon followed by re-schedules for a game on Saturday. Honestly, think that’d be fun to be part of a game like that (and obviously not fun if you are the team quarantined). I agree. I was telling our coaches the other day I would love to get rid of all scouting and all film and teams just prepare with fundamentals and the team that is best prepared in general would probably have an edge. I think it would be fun. I would lose my mind not know, but it would be interesting nonetheless. |
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Post by Defcord on Oct 21, 2020 6:32:30 GMT -6
I think this has actually happened quite a bit in multiple states when teams have lost an opponent to quarantine. They just look and see who else lost and opponent and make it work. Yes, I have seen this from week to week. I just meant that the idea of trying to "be normal" so that there can be playoffs and a championship seems short sighted to me. I think the drive to be normal may be mostly fueled by state associations' lust for playoff revenues. |
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Post by wolverine55 on Oct 21, 2020 6:57:20 GMT -6
Iowa actually shortened the season to 7 weeks and last Friday was the first game of the playoffs. Essentially, everyone got into the playoffs because the state didn't want teams unfairly punished for having to miss games due to Covid. Even if it was one team that decided to not play a game, it wasn't a forfeit. It was a no-contest. A playoff situation already happened: one team decided not to play last Friday due to Covid. The other team didn't get credit for a win, but did get to move on to the second round. What??? Isn’t winning & advancing in playoffs the same thing?!? It is. I probably didn't word that very well. What I meant was the team moving on to the second round entered the playoffs with a 4-2 record. They move on to the second round but officially their record is still 4-2. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 21, 2020 13:59:13 GMT -6
In SC it looks like we'll get a plus 1 game but it's not definite.
We had a cancellation a week before the game was to be played and Thursday at 3:30 we finalized a game the next night @ 7:30
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Post by coachklee on Oct 22, 2020 3:20:50 GMT -6
What??? Isn’t winning & advancing in playoffs the same thing?!? It is. I probably didn't word that very well. What I meant was the team moving on to the second round entered the playoffs with a 4-2 record. They move on to the second round but officially their record is still 4-2. So essentially a bye week. Ok. Makes sense. |
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Post by macdiiddy on Oct 22, 2020 8:27:28 GMT -6
This is week 1 of the playoffs in Indiana. We already had two teams, one of which was 9-0. Who had to forfeit the game and are now out of the playoffs.
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Post by Defcord on Oct 22, 2020 12:55:57 GMT -6
This is week 1 of the playoffs in Indiana. We already had two teams, one of which was 9-0. Who had to forfeit the game and are now out of the playoffs. Just saw the story today about Southwood today. I played in that conference growing up and it was always a great atmosphere and tough football at their place. |
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