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Post by bigcity on Jun 22, 2006 22:18:24 GMT -6
I would like to hear some opinions on the weaknesses of the 50 double eagle defense. Primarily with a man free secondary.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 22, 2006 22:31:07 GMT -6
vs a 1-back set, the SS usually has to invert weak which means the Strong OLB (9-tech) will have to play the TE (if man) or the strong side flat (if 3-zone). susceptible to play-pass strong or run plays where TE releases (more specifically draw type actions).
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Post by coachveer on Jun 23, 2006 6:58:43 GMT -6
Not always option sound. We find that many dbl eagle teams have issues with Primary Run Support and PRS option assignment.
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Post by chiefscoach on Jun 23, 2006 7:16:28 GMT -6
When you refer to the double eagle is this the 4-3 under?
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Post by Coach Huey on Jun 23, 2006 7:22:38 GMT -6
When you refer to the double eagle is this the 4-3 under? what we call the double eagle is a 50 based defense. nose - two 3 techs |
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Post by bulldog on Jun 23, 2006 13:25:30 GMT -6
I've found that it can be vulnerable to weakside run - particularly vs. 1 back (where the Will adjusts and the Sam is on the TE). Wing counter, power, G schemes, and counter trey (GT) in particular. I haven't seen a real problem with traditional option - but speed option with the Mike over the center is tough since he can get blocked with a scoop. And any time you are in man coverage, you are living on the edge. Rubs, screens and even draw can be a real problem.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jun 23, 2006 14:12:09 GMT -6
speed option weak side -- like butter
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Post by brophy on Jun 23, 2006 14:37:40 GMT -6
going C2 or C4 requires some serious adjustments with your alignments. Double Eagle / 46 is geared for C3, C1, or C0.
Watch your numbers on Option weak....
Double eagle (two eagled defenders = 3 tech) as I know it
---C-----------------------F-----------------------C------------
-----------------$--------------M-------------------------------
-------------W----E---N---T----S----E-------------------------
--O-------------O--O--X--O--O--TE-----------------------------
------------------------Q------------------------------FL--------
------------------------F-----------------------------------------
------------------------A-----------------------------------------
other 'weakness'....how do you adjust to trips?
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Post by bulldog on Jun 23, 2006 15:12:47 GMT -6
vs. Trip, Corners over on #2 and Will covers #3 - assuming C1/C0. Sam covers the TE.
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Post by fbcoach33 on Jun 24, 2006 16:37:57 GMT -6
I think the C gap on TE side can be a little soft at times, we mix in bringing our DE down into C and scrapping our ILB out to D. We play mainly cover 2 with this front.
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Post by ccscoach on Jun 24, 2006 17:49:29 GMT -6
Rocket and Jet are both good and weakside veer will hurt this defense
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