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Post by hchscoachtom on Nov 7, 2006 20:31:59 GMT -6
Just wondering what your thoughts are about being a great motivator. Are you a great motivator? How does a coach become a great motivator? What methods does he use to motivate his team and\or player to be the best they can be? Does one need a degree in Psychology, Human Development or some other area of study to be a great motivator? Any other thoughts you might have.
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Post by hchscoachtom on Nov 7, 2006 20:32:58 GMT -6
Who were or are great motivators? What makes them be a great motivator?
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Post by coach79 on Nov 7, 2006 21:31:27 GMT -6
I think that a great motivators are born, not made.
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 8, 2006 7:12:08 GMT -6
someone once said that fear is the greatest motivator of all.
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Post by brophy on Nov 8, 2006 7:40:40 GMT -6
"great motivator" - finding the trigger in each player, and knowing when to pull it.
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 8, 2006 7:43:26 GMT -6
I agree brophy...i think great motivators are the guys that kids say " I dont want to disappoint him" and they would run thru a brick wall for their coach....I have been fortunate to have kids that loved me (and some that didnt...did my best to get what i could out of them as players though)....and would really bust their humps for me.
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Post by coach239 on Nov 8, 2006 7:52:07 GMT -6
Great motivators are the guys who have the ability to get ALL their players to play at the highest level possible. Anyone can Coach gifted players, but great motivators get average players to play beyond their potential.
Bill Belichick comes to mind when I think of great motivators. I dont know what he's doing, but I have witnessed 2nd and 3rd string players step in and have peak performances.
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Post by superpower on Nov 8, 2006 7:57:20 GMT -6
I think you have to start any discussion of great motivators with Vince Lombardi. Those great Packers teams would have given their left nut for that guy.
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Post by coach239 on Nov 8, 2006 8:08:46 GMT -6
I think you have to start any discussion of great motivators with Vince Lombardi. Those great Packers teams would have given their left nut for that guy. I agree, but doesnt it say a whole lot more for a guy to do it in the era of free agency, multi-million dollar stars, etc.? Dont get me wrong, Lombardi was a master motivator, but he didnt have to worry about losing players every 4 years to free agency, nor did he have to worry about players being bigger than the game itself. |
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Post by brophy on Nov 8, 2006 8:17:12 GMT -6
The common theme of the 'great motivators' in football, usually sing the song of giving up for the greater good of the GROUP, FAMILY, ETC.
Each personal motivations are different for each player.
Some need to be pressured, some need to be nutured, some need to be forced......
I think the bottom line is, as long as the player knows you have his best interest at heart, he can trust you and what you're asking him to do....this is no different than in any other realm of motivation and persuasion psychology.
Can you gain investors to your project?
Can you sell them on the 'big picture'?
Everyone wants to be a part of something special and meaningful....the job is to sell the program in believeable bites they can swallow.....that there is both personal gain and team gain in the progress they make each day.
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Post by rooster on Nov 8, 2006 8:20:46 GMT -6
I asked a nearby college coach about how you could tell if your players were motivated. He said, "Coach, do your players play the game for you, or do they play the game with you?" It really makes sense. If they play the game for you, then you have motivated them through preparation. If they play the game with you, then you haven't compelled them enough in preparation.
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Post by hchscoachtom on Nov 8, 2006 15:57:42 GMT -6
Great motivators are the guys who have the ability to get ALL their players to play at the highest level possible. Anyone can Coach gifted players, but great motivators get average players to play beyond their potential.
What sort of techniques do these motivators use? How do you know what "button" to push to get a player to play beyond their potential? What is it that's going to make a player "bust through walls" or "bust their hump" for you?
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Post by blb on Nov 8, 2006 16:29:30 GMT -6
Make the average ones good...make the good great...get the great ones to play great every down.
Motivation = teaching and coaching in drills. If kids improve fundamentally, know what to do and how to do it, they will play with confidence. That's how they come close to playing to their potential.
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 8, 2006 16:45:15 GMT -6
A great motivator is not someone who gets players to play great for him, rather, it's someone who gets players to WANT to play great for him.
The Lombardi - Belechick comparision is no different than comparing high school coaches now with coaches back in the 60's or 70's. It used to be "cool" to be a member of the football team, whether you were a starter or benchwarmer. Now, kids skateboarders, x-box players, and every other sub-group that wasn't around 20-25 years ago can have the same or greater degree of coolness as the football or basketball team, creating a challenge for coaches trying to get numbers and athletes out for a team.
I'm not complaining - it's simply a different era. Coaches in this day who are able to get good numbers and then get them to give their all are just as good as those "old school" coaches that I played for back in the 70's. It's just a different set of challenges.
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Post by coach79 on Nov 8, 2006 22:32:43 GMT -6
I think also the difference between then and now is that the number of schools has doubled even tripled. there isn't the 1 or 2 schools per city. now where i live there are 8+ different high schools within a 20 mile radius. way back when there was 1 school maybe 2 which were "cross-town" rivals.
that's my .02
-Coach Brett
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Post by los on Nov 9, 2006 6:58:06 GMT -6
The meaning of being a great motivator to me is, a person who has the ability to get others around them to "do their jobs" to "the best of their abilities" while always "pushing them to greater heights of expectation" and as Brophy said "knowing which methods will work best for different kinds of people", whether it be "example", "harsh discipline", "fear tactics", or "positive reinforcement". los
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Post by coach239 on Nov 9, 2006 7:27:22 GMT -6
Great motivators are the guys who have the ability to get ALL their players to play at the highest level possible. Anyone can Coach gifted players, but great motivators get average players to play beyond their potential. What sort of techniques do these motivators use? How do you know what "button" to push to get a player to play beyond their potential? What is it that's going to make a player "bust through walls" or "bust their hump" for you? techniques vary based on the "type" of Coach. some Coaches have the laid back personality like a Tony Dungy, some have a tough nosed and direct approach like Bill Parcells. Both Coaches have had success. As long as a Coach shows his players that he cares about them personally I dont think it would matter how Coach conveys his message/techniques. What buttons to push on players is still a mystery. This is why Coaching is such a challenge. We have the task of bringing together a large group of young men fom different backgrounds/lifestyles/religious beliefs/etc. etc. for one common goal. I honestly think that there is no one set way of doing things. Trial and error is the best way to find out what works for you and your players. As said earlier, if a player knows that his Coach cares, really cares I dont think he would want to dissapoint. Like a wise Coach on this board once said, "its not about the Xs and the Os, but about the Jimmies and the Joes." Invest time in developing relationships with your players and the Xs and Os will come easier. Just my two cents of course..... |
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