cmac18
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Post by cmac18 on May 18, 2006 12:11:55 GMT -6
I'm curious to find out what you OC's or even DC's feel about calling the game from the booth or the field? I've been the OC for 4 years and have always been on the sideline. This year I'm thinking about going up to the booth. Bear in mind that we have only have 5 coaches on our varsity staff and 3 are pretty inexperienced. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
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Post by bulldog on May 18, 2006 12:15:29 GMT -6
I don't know what would be right for you, but the best OC that I knew sat in the booth. He felt strongly that it gave him a better vantage point and that he could see things that he couldn't see on the field.
As the DC I have always been on the field and always felt a little isolated in the booth. But this year, I am moving up to the booth to try it out.
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JMC
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Post by JMC on May 18, 2006 12:19:02 GMT -6
You said your staff was a little inexperienced right. So does the person who is in the box usually give you good feed back or do you go back and look at film and go "man he was way off wish i had known the bubble was there," if you answered yes to this question then I would go in the box.
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aggie98
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Post by aggie98 on May 18, 2006 12:52:34 GMT -6
This will be my first year as the OC and I plan on being in the box. I feel like I can see more from up there. We also only will have four coaches on the sideline. I trust the OL coach I am talking to on the headsets to be able to make adjustments he needs to or ones the I think he needs to make.
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cmac18
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Post by cmac18 on May 18, 2006 12:58:31 GMT -6
jmc,
I am losing my box guy from last year. So i'm pretty much starting over. I like being able to see more but i'm worried about the communication from me to coach and from coach to qb. We have got to be on the same page because i can't yell out little adjustments from the box. So i think i just answered my own question
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Post by rhsathletics3 on May 18, 2006 18:10:27 GMT -6
Being in the box slows me down. While on defense I can work on the next series script and not be bothered by babysitting kids or being interrupted by players and coaches with non-important conversations. I send the plays down to another assistant who runs them in with a player. We will be tweaking with no huddle and signals so I don't know how that is going to work.
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Post by hawkcoach on May 22, 2006 7:25:03 GMT -6
I find that being in the box allows me to distance myself from the "emotions" of the game. Instead of getting caught up in yelling at officials or kids, I can focus on the next playcall. Plus, being a veer team it allows me to see alignments of the d front better to make my calls. I can also check how the CBs and FS are reacting to option and see if the veer pass is open. So, for me the box is better.
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Post by redandwhite on May 22, 2006 12:53:18 GMT -6
As a HC, I prefer to have my OC in the booth - much better vision of what the defense is doing and takes some of the emotional aspect out of the equation. On the flip side, I prefer my DC on the field - I believe that on the defensive side the emotion should be part of the equation.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on May 24, 2006 6:32:59 GMT -6
As OC, I like to be in the box. I started out on the sideline, had a good coach in the box but he gave me no, I mean zero, usable feedback. I then went into the box to finish out the season.
Now I'm OC & Asst HC and I'm back on the field. The HC wants me there so that if he gets booted, I'll be on the sideline ready to go. So basically I have nobody in the box...
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nexthc
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Post by nexthc on May 24, 2006 7:29:24 GMT -6
To each his own. If the OC or DC feel that it is better to be in the box, then be in the box. If they feel that it is better to be on the field, then be on the field. We have both OC and DC on the field.
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Post by paydirt18 on May 24, 2006 22:24:45 GMT -6
What do you do when you are the HC and the OC? Would you go up in the box? As a former OC I preferred the box, but now I have just recently become HC and intend on remainig the OC. What do I do? If I go up in the box, I feel that as a HC I won't be down there if something happens........
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nexthc
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Post by nexthc on May 25, 2006 8:59:22 GMT -6
Stay on the field. You as the HC need to communicate to the officials, and to your players. You can still remain the OC, just have someone up in the box that you trust and that will relay the information that you need/looking for.
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kdcoach
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Post by kdcoach on Jun 1, 2006 8:13:38 GMT -6
As HC & OC I think you need to remain on the field. This year, I'm going to give one of my asst. coaches a check list of things I want him to look for and relay back to me. I'm hoping it helps both of us out from a stand point of what we need to see to be effective.
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Post by hchscoachtom on Jun 1, 2006 14:56:19 GMT -6
I've been in both positions as a DC. I like the action & intensity of being on the field, but I wasn't always focused on play calling etc.
Whereas in the box I think you can stick to your game plan with better discipline, and not get so caught up in the emotions of the game.
For me the key is having a coach you trust on the field to make the calls that you send in. Wasn't always the case with my asst. I had a strategy and he had his, he didn't always call in the plays I sent down to him. So, you must have good communication with the other coach, and everyone be on the same page regarding game plan, and who has final say.
Hope this is helpful
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ramsoc
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Post by ramsoc on Jun 3, 2006 8:23:39 GMT -6
As an OC, I prefer to be on the field. I went up in the box for the first game of the year, two years ago, and it was sensory overload. I saw too much and couldnt parse out what I needed. I've run series based offenses (Double Wing/Wing T), so when I run a play, I'm watching one or two defenders to see what their reaction was to get my next play call, and I can focus on them better being down on the field.
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Post by coachnicholson on Jul 14, 2006 10:43:03 GMT -6
Our head Coach is also our OC so he will obviously be on the sideline. Our DC is also going to be on the sideline so who do we put in the box? We have 2 Oline coaches, should we leave one of them on the field to communicate to the players and have the other in the box??
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 14, 2006 11:19:34 GMT -6
Many have already allueded to the fact that the coach in the box must be able to see what's happening down on the field and then either make calls or communicate the info down to the play caller on the sidelines. If you are at a smaller school, you also have the challenge of having coaches (head or assistant) who are capable of leading, motivating, and controlling the players on the field and the sideline. Examine your own skills and the skills of your staff and then decide where each of them can help the team.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jul 14, 2006 12:33:14 GMT -6
I've dpne it both ways - both as a coordinator and a head coach. Probably called a better game in the box - but I really missed the game time coaching and have returned to the sidelines.
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crl
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Post by crl on Jul 16, 2006 3:23:58 GMT -6
Going to box 100% this year in my new job...I don´t have a problem, my head is clear up there. What is important is QB/HC and OC on the same page...if not," hell" have a beer and watch your team get their collected a** kicked.
I have one further question?
2nd half adjustments, the other people are going to be making them as you are. My opinion is this, let them adjust- try what was working and then adjust. Their is also the George Costansa
way(do what you think is right and then make it opposite of that)OC´s think of the script and what did not work the 1st quarter...after they adjust run that first series and see if it works now! Scares the bajezzes out of me! But, it might work.
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Post by shakdaddy3 on Jul 16, 2006 8:13:08 GMT -6
cmac18,
You said you had problems relaying information to your QB. Do you guys have headsets? If so, let the QB wear one of the field coaches while you talk to him. OR, try to get a QB phone going. Works great for us.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jul 16, 2006 15:39:55 GMT -6
oc's job is to call plays ... he needs to be in the best setting for his mind to be clear & free so he can do that job as best as possible.
i crack up at guys that say "i need to be on the field to control the sidelines and make sure we get things worked out & communicate, blah, blah" ..... why do you even have other assistants if they don't have jobs? just made yourself the #1 coach on staff & above the rest of the coaches with that statement. trust the guys you work with. build relationship (teach/learn) in the off-season and throughout the year so that everyone can handle various responsibilities. assign duties accordingly, and everyone do their job. i'm in the box becuase it helps me do my job better. other coaches are held accountable to do their jobs (sideline organization, communication, etc.) ...
if the staff is made up of the OC and everyone else, you will have problems ... staff needs to be assistants each with jobs, just 1 guy has job of calling plays
not gonna sit here & tell you that if i went down to the sideline we would all of a sudden have the most organizied sideline, etc.....
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