humble
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Post by humble on Mar 10, 2020 6:56:50 GMT -6
I'm a young coach (29) and I can't go to sleep out of season or in season without taking something. In season it gets worse, I end up waking up super early then I can't go back to to sleep. I workout 3-4 days a week and I coach basketball as well and normally play with them 7th period out of season.
Really don't know what the deal is. Doctor just told me to take something, but taking benadryl/nyquil every single night can't be that good for you. I've also alternated taking Melatonin at times as well.
I really just don't get tired until around 2am. I just want to fall asleep like a normal person and not have to take anything! Lol
Any advice appreciated.
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Post by realdawg on Mar 10, 2020 7:07:55 GMT -6
I have a similar problem. I don’t have trouble falling asleep. But I have trouble waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to go back to sleep. Some general tips are avoid caffeine especially late at night.
One thing that helped me was to get up and write whatever I was thinking about down on paper. It helps get it off your mind.
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Post by lmorris on Mar 10, 2020 7:34:27 GMT -6
humble....do you have a smart phone? I had similar issues, when I got rid of my smart phone for a few years(5-6 years) went to a flip phone I started sleeping better after a couple of months. May take your phone and put it in another room, but they did a study a few years back that taking a smart phone away from a group that was ages 18-25 and they showed the sames signs and symptoms as PTSD war vets. Your age group would fall into this category. realdawg-do you snore? had a coaching buddy that swore noises were waking him up at night and would wake up several times a night, thought he was hearing the cat next door. He did a sleep apnea study and found his best hour of sleep he actually woke up, or stopped breathing 27 times, he now has one of those mask things that helps push air for him to sleep.
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Post by MICoach on Mar 10, 2020 7:43:44 GMT -6
I just want to fall asleep like a normal person and not have to take anything! What even is normal? Do what works for you. What do you do for a job? Do you wake up feeling rested or no? If it's not negatively impacting your job and you feel good, I would say don't change anything. I go to bed between 12 during the school week and consider myself a pretty functional teacher. If I'm feeling extra tired I'll try to get to bed around 11, and some nights it's not til 1. But I like my alone time at night and I can do low-impact school work at that time or just relax or whatever. I don't have any kids so I sleep in a bit on weekends if I feel like I need it. Caffeine consumption can be a double edged sword. If you're waking up feeling groggy/unrested it can help you get moving for the day. But if you already consume a fair amount (do you take pre-workout?) it could have to do with why you're not falling asleep when you'd like to. I will say that moderating my caffeine intake did not make me go to bed any earlier, but it did make me feel more rested after sleeping (anecdotal, I don't know if that is common). |
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Post by realdawg on Mar 10, 2020 8:33:51 GMT -6
I do not snore at all. I wake up and have to pee in the middle of the night. Once I’m awake my brain gets to working and I can’t shut it off.
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humble
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Post by humble on Mar 10, 2020 8:41:58 GMT -6
I just want to fall asleep like a normal person and not have to take anything! What even is normal? Do what works for you. What do you do for a job? Do you wake up feeling rested or no? If it's not negatively impacting your job and you feel good, I would say don't change anything. I go to bed between 12 during the school week and consider myself a pretty functional teacher. If I'm feeling extra tired I'll try to get to bed around 11, and some nights it's not til 1. But I like my alone time at night and I can do low-impact school work at that time or just relax or whatever. I don't have any kids so I sleep in a bit on weekends if I feel like I need it. Caffeine consumption can be a double edged sword. If you're waking up feeling groggy/unrested it can help you get moving for the day. But if you already consume a fair amount (do you take pre-workout?) it could have to do with why you're not falling asleep when you'd like to. I will say that moderating my caffeine intake did not make me go to bed any earlier, but it did make me feel more rested after sleeping (anecdotal, I don't know if that is common). OC/Head Basketball/Head Track. Got a lot going on but I enjoy it. I NEED to go to bed at a decent time. I work 10-12 hours a day the whole school year. I use to take pre workout a lot. I have quit taking it two years ago though. I just take some caffiene in the mornings now. I have thought about the phone thing before. I have put my phone and TV in "Night mode." I've considered putting the phone up around 9 and just reading for a bit. |
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Post by MICoach on Mar 10, 2020 8:58:46 GMT -6
What even is normal? Do what works for you. What do you do for a job? Do you wake up feeling rested or no? If it's not negatively impacting your job and you feel good, I would say don't change anything. I go to bed between 12 during the school week and consider myself a pretty functional teacher. If I'm feeling extra tired I'll try to get to bed around 11, and some nights it's not til 1. But I like my alone time at night and I can do low-impact school work at that time or just relax or whatever. I don't have any kids so I sleep in a bit on weekends if I feel like I need it. Caffeine consumption can be a double edged sword. If you're waking up feeling groggy/unrested it can help you get moving for the day. But if you already consume a fair amount (do you take pre-workout?) it could have to do with why you're not falling asleep when you'd like to. I will say that moderating my caffeine intake did not make me go to bed any earlier, but it did make me feel more rested after sleeping (anecdotal, I don't know if that is common). OC/Head Basketball/Head Track. Got a lot going on but I enjoy it. I NEED to go to bed at a decent time. I work 10-12 hours a day the whole school year. I use to take pre workout a lot. I have quit taking it two years ago though. I just take some caffiene in the mornings now. I have thought about the phone thing before. I have put my phone and TV in "Night mode." I've considered putting the phone up around 9 and just reading for a bit. So do you only coach? What is your primary source of income? And does your sleep have an impact on that? Could it be stress related? |
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Post by huddlehut on Mar 10, 2020 9:05:38 GMT -6
Sleep apnea.
Don't rule it out.
Take a sleep test.
Get a CPAP.
Don't wake up in the middle of the night and you won't start thinking about things.
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Post by humble on Mar 10, 2020 9:19:54 GMT -6
OC/Head Basketball/Head Track. Got a lot going on but I enjoy it. I NEED to go to bed at a decent time. I work 10-12 hours a day the whole school year. I use to take pre workout a lot. I have quit taking it two years ago though. I just take some caffiene in the mornings now. I have thought about the phone thing before. I have put my phone and TV in "Night mode." I've considered putting the phone up around 9 and just reading for a bit. So do you only coach? What is your primary source of income? And does your sleep have an impact on that? Could it be stress related? Sorry, I have 5 PE classes. That would be my primary source of income. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Mar 10, 2020 9:48:13 GMT -6
I was told (by an eye doctor) that avoiding blue light exposure at night can help if falling asleep is a problem. Your phone or computer screen likely has a blue light filter you can activate to help avoid it, or just stay off of it for a few hours before bed time.
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Post by newhope on Mar 10, 2020 11:23:21 GMT -6
I'm a young coach (29) and I can't go to sleep out of season or in season without taking something. In season it gets worse, I end up waking up super early then I can't go back to to sleep. I workout 3-4 days a week and I coach basketball as well and normally play with them 7th period out of season. Really don't know what the deal is. Doctor just told me to take something, but taking benadryl/nyquil every single night can't be that good for you. I've also alternated taking Melatonin at times as well. I really just don't get tired until around 2am. I just want to fall asleep like a normal person and not have to take anything! Lol Any advice appreciated. Avoid caffeine at night. Stay off electronic devices for an hour or so before bedtime. Talk to your doctor about gabapentin. Not habit forming, don't need much to put you to sleep with no ill effects. If he's told you take something, he may be willing to prescribe it for you. |
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Post by MICoach on Mar 10, 2020 12:17:07 GMT -6
So do you only coach? What is your primary source of income? And does your sleep have an impact on that? Could it be stress related? Sorry, I have 5 PE classes. That would be my primary source of income. Got it, wasn't sure if you teach or work outside the school. Sorry, us night owl teachers need to look out for each other. Try watching boring tv or something before bed? |
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Post by Defcord on Mar 10, 2020 12:32:27 GMT -6
I sleep pretty well but wake up quite a bit so not sure if this will help you or not.
When I can’t fall back asleep I lay with my eyes open instead of closed. Then I start to doze off. It’s weird but it works for me.
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Post by aceback76 on Mar 10, 2020 13:15:21 GMT -6
Go to a good SPECIALIST (Doctor) on this, not a bunch of amateurs!
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Post by blb on Mar 10, 2020 13:33:07 GMT -6
Go to a good SPECIALIST (Doctor) on this, not a bunch of amateurs!
If you read OP he already has seen a doctor.
He is simply seeking advice from people with similar life experiences who may be able to help.
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Post by aceback76 on Mar 10, 2020 13:36:43 GMT -6
Get another "professional" opinion (or two)! One is OFTEN not enough (this is why we HAVE the "Medical Profession")! This may not be Cancer or Heart Disease, but it CAN be serious. REPEAT: DON'T LISTEN TO "AMATEURS" (it's not THEIR Ox that is getting gored)!!! There are several of them out there now, offering their opinions on everything from "E. D." to Coronavirus!
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Post by stilltryin on Mar 10, 2020 14:32:01 GMT -6
Everybody's experience, good and bad, is unique to them, and may not help the next guy, but my own experience leads me to think it's usually stress that makes it hard for me to get to sleep, or get back to sleep if I wake up.
This is obviously not "professional advice" but the trick for me, when I was feeling overwhelmed by things that had to be done, or worried about health or personal issues, was to put whatever it was aside for the evening, and think about something that made me relax. Crazy as it may sound, my go-to happy place was often my kickoff coverage team ... moving the pieces around in my head, picturing them sprinting downfield and closing on a returner. Next thing I knew, the sun was coming up. But that's just me ... and if we give up a big return, I might need to find a new happy place.
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Post by dubber on Mar 10, 2020 19:03:14 GMT -6
Close your eyes and tell your body to go phuk itself it’s time for bed. Don’t open your eyes for anything.
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Post by dubber on Mar 10, 2020 19:03:31 GMT -6
I’m joking obviously
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Post by utchuckd on Mar 13, 2020 6:13:15 GMT -6
Shawn Stevenson's podcast, The Model Health Show, has a 3 part series on improving your sleep that you might get some good ideas from. They're in like the first 10 episodes so you have to go back and look, but it was one of the main things that made me re-think getting enough good sleep. Some of it you'll be able to use, some you won't, but it's worth checking out.
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Post by mariner42 on Mar 13, 2020 6:43:38 GMT -6
Start really enforcing a bedtime ritual. Phone/TV off, lights on dim, warm shower, brush your teeth, cool room w/ warm blankets, read an actual book until you fall asleep. Sex always helps.
Also, Headspace and other meditation apps have great sleep recordings to help you fall asleep. Either ambient noise or basically bedtime stories for adults.
Try guided meditation or mindful breathing before sleep, they both do a lot for downshifting your nervous system and putting you in the right place to sleep.
Basically, you're too aroused. Chill yourself out.
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Post by utchuckd on Mar 13, 2020 7:54:27 GMT -6
Start really enforcing a bedtime ritual. Phone/TV off, lights on dim, warm shower, brush your teeth, cool room w/ warm blankets, read an actual book until you fall asleep. Sex always helps. Also, Headspace and other meditation apps have great sleep recordings to help you fall asleep. Either ambient noise or basically bedtime stories for adults. Try guided meditation or mindful breathing before sleep, they both do a lot for downshifting your nervous system and putting you in the right place to sleep. Basically, you're too aroused. Chill yourself out. 2 things I've really tried to stay with are the bedtime ritual/process, and I've blacked everything out at sleep time. No light sources at all. I try to limit screen time, use the night filters on my computer, etc but I'm not as good with that stuff. |
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Post by wolfden12 on Mar 13, 2020 13:00:05 GMT -6
Meditation
Avoid caffeine
Avoid food after 8 pm
Glass of wine
Avoid being on phone/screens
Read
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 13, 2020 16:08:32 GMT -6
I second wolfden12
Go to youtube, type in guided meditation
Don't knock it till you try it
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 13, 2020 23:46:39 GMT -6
I NEED to go to bed at a decent time. What makes you think so? |
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